Hi there all,

I think it may mean that this was the point at which he breathed his last.
I know I always marvel as in one place (too tired to look it up right now)
we read that Jesus "bowed His head".  Men who are dying don't usually do
that of their own freewill;  they want to go on living and fight to do so!
But He gave up, gladly, I believe, knowing what was ahead.

Just my ramblings and maybe only based on my own thinking, but there you go!


--
Carol



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From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: spirit wonderings


> That is a good question. We, as God's creation, are a spirit soul and body
> according to...
>
> 1 Thessolonians 5:23
> 23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your
> spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the
coming
> of our Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Strong's dictionary gives  the follwing definitions...
>
> Defines Spirit as:For Spirit: NT:4151
> pneuma (pnyoo'-mah); from NT:4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast)
or
> a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational
> soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or
> (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy
> Spirit:
>
> Defines Soul as: NT:5590
> psuche (psoo-khay'); from NT:5594; breath, i.e. (by implication) spirit,
> abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only; thus
> distinguished on the one hand from NT:4151, which is the rational and
> immortal soul; and on the other from NT:2222, which is mere vitality, even
> of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew
> OT:5315, OT:7307 and OT:2416):
> KJV - heart (+-ily), life, mind, soul, + us, + you.
>
>
> Defines Body as: NT:4983
> soma (so'-mah); from NT:4982; the body (as a sound whole), used in a very
> wide application, literally or figuratively:
> KJV - bodily, body, slave.
>
> This is a question which I've posed to myself in times past. It is what
> seperates us as well from Humanist because they believe we are body and
> mind, just gray matter that when dead is just dead. It is easy to  believe
> body, as wee can see and feel it. Our minds is something we think with and
> we memorize things and compute things, yet the spirit is a more subtle
> guite or engine if you will,  which I believe our personality uses as a
> vehicle to negociate our minds and bodies as well. Or ought to do that for
> sure. Geez Louise it is difficult to explain isn't it? Perhaps another way
> is looking at joy and looking at happiness. We are happy or sad based upon
> our surroundings, or happenings. Today, you lost an asset which not only
> had monitary value to it, but served as a symbol of independence for you
> and your family, something yawl took enjoyment in and it served as an icon
> extention of your family in  a way. Similar to one's car, a certain
> inanimate attachment to it. After you lost it today, you were probably
mad,
> sad, regretful, and a whole host of negative emotions, which probably made
> you, unhappy. But, through it all, from your post, it is easy to see you
> still have joy. Joy I think comes from the spirit, and happiness comes
from
> our interaction with our world around us.
>
> I'll dig up Nelson's bible dictionary on spirit and soul and post them
here.
>
> Brad
>