I remember when there was no msaa.  In fact, I remember when microsoft
products were not supported but others were and there was no msaa.  this
is just an excuse.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Verhoeven" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: Opera browser and screen readers


Hi david,

I asked AT Vendors why their screen readers did not support Opera and it
is
because of Opera not supporting MSAA.
I do not see why support for MSAA should be wrong?

Peter Verhoeven

At 06:52 26-04-2002 -0400, you wrote:
>it may not support msaa, but earlier versions of it worked just fine
and
>if you work with it and do not use the java version, it will work at
>least to some degree.  I'm sick of hearing msaa.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Verhoeven" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:01 AM
>Subject: Re: Opera browser and screen readers
>
>
>Hi David,
>
>The problem that screen readers do not work very well with Opera is,
>that
>it does not support MSAA.
>Latest releases of screen reader are highly designed to work with
>Internet
>Explorer
>
>Regards Peter Verhoeven
>Internet : http://www.magnifiers.org (the Screen Magnifiers Homepage)
>
>At 15:58 25-04-2002 -0400, David Poehlman wrote:
> >on the opera web site, there is a link to some old scripts that may
> >help.  I had an ini file for a version that was a ways back that
> >probably help now but basically, for you to stand a chance, you need
to
> >configure it to use the same window for everything and not to open
new
> >windows and there is an accessibility mode in it somewhere but I
don't
> >remember where.  It used to work fairly well even as late as jfw 4.0
on
> >windows millennium.  I found that the scripts did not help here
though
> >and access was spotty but possible.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Rebman" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:59 PM
> >Subject: Opera browser and screen readers
> >
> >
> >Does anybody have any information as to how to best make the Opera
> >browser
> >work with a screen reader?  I just downloaded version 6.01 of the
Opera
> >browser and installed it, but am having a rather difficult time
getting
> >it
> >to work with JFW 4.02.  At the moment I can't even access the menu
bar
> >or
> >the drop-down menus without having to resort to the Jaws cursor.
> >
> >If anybody has any information on things I might try as far as
> >configuring
> >the browser itself, or if there are any configuration files for JFW
> >and/or
> >Window-Eyes, I would really appreciate knowing about them.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >------------
> >
> >James A. Rebman
> >
> >Cognitive Levers Project
> >Center for Life-Long Learning and Design
> >Department of Computer Science
> >University of Colorado, Boulder
> >
> >"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
> >violent.  It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in
>the
> >opposite direction."
> >
> >  - E. F. Schumacher