Tracy,

the source of the info is www.healself.org, and I agree with you on the
inappropriate style of workout promoted by Arlin for most people.

get bodybuilding recommendations from:

http://www.cyberpump.com/hitfaq/
http://www.hardgainer.com/56qa.html

all you need to do is eat enough and work out properly.

no, I don't believe you need raw animal products, although that is
one way to get a dose of hormones that may help build you up (is that what
you want?)
of course, I'm sure that jean-claude does not eat tainted meat, but I
wonder on what
grounds he would say that raw meat is required.

check out www.cbass.com also, I believe there was another oldtimer that was
a vegetarian,
but maybe he drank milk, etc also. (roy hilligenn)

also check out www.superslow.com

Now if that's not enough info for you, I'll eat raw meat.

Gary




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> Tracy Price wrote:
> >From what I here you guys saying, I am not sure who is the
> >authority here and if NFL is all wet with thier recommendations.  I know
his
> >workout routines are only for the steroid enhanced freaks.
>
> Pardon me, I lost the context here. Who is "his"? And who is recommending
> workout routines for steroid enhanced persons?
> Stefan

Let me see if I can clarify.  If Stephen Arlin is plagerizing in his book
Raw Power, then who is the authority or source of his information.  Is the
person he is copying the real "expert" on the subject matter in Stephen's
book?  If the real source is elsewhere, I would prefer to go to the source
for guidance.  This is what I was trying to get at.

Secondly, I have read Stephen Arlin's workouts.  He suggests working out 6
days a week with one day of rest.  His workouts consists of between 60 and
75 sets of resistance work, not including abdominal work.  If each set took
2 minutes, that's over 2.5 hours per day of lifting weights (one minute per
set with one minute rest) and that doesn't even count the 100 situps and
other stuff he says do.  I don't know about all you guys, but 25 sets on
leg
day at one minute rest during a high intensity workout will make me puke.
That's why I made the statement I did.  The only guys I have ever seen do
anywhere near, and most are not even near, a workout like he suggests, are
getting serious pharmaceutical help.  And six days a week does not give
your
body time to recover, raw food or not.

So my question was, am I all wet on this or can eating raw food only turn
me
into superman like Stephen Arlin.  If not, some help on how to workout and
the right diet for body builders would be most appreciated.  By diet, I am
referring here to raw foods.  I know there are pro body builders out there
(Bill Pearl, Andreas Chaling) that are, or claim to be, vegetarian, but
they
all consume milk and eggs like no tomorrow.  What I want to know is, is all
that really necessary. I don't want to be a pro BB or anything, I just want
to look muscular and be healthy.  Can I do it on raw food alone, and if so,
how.

Thanks for your help.
Tracy