<<Disclaimer: Verify this information before applying it to your situation.>> In a message dated 03/12/99 9:11:32 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: << Just wanted to add that King Arthur's catalog also has english muffin rings.... I think I remember they were about 7.95 for a set of eight. I have no idea how you would get a catalog.>> I just dug out my King Arthur Flour Catalog, and they do have them in there. You might try their website at: www.kingarthurflour.com I just joined this loop and it has been very helpful so far. My oldest son whom is 8 was just diagnosed as having a wheat and sugar cane allergy. He's had problems since an infant and has always been as skinny as a rail. We hope to change that now. Cheryl in PA.