<<Disclaimer: Verify this information before applying it to your situation.>> The machine that you are referencing is called Red Star. It will be available in Wal-Mart for less than $100.00 this month. The other machine that was demonstrated was the West Bend model 41080 & 41040. They are offering a special price of $211.95 (model 41080) and $149.95 directly from the company. West Bend, Breadmaker oOfer, PO Box 2780, West Bend, IN 53095-0278 Regards, ---- Michael Jones ([log in to unmask]) Living a wonderful, Gluten-Free life in Orlando, FL