Hi, I am trying to get to grips with windows 8.1 after happily using windows 7 for a good while. I wanted to install the traditional card games and after googling this I started to download a file from, (I think c net site), but aborted this when I realised there seemed to be some questionable stuff. I un-installed the original programme but now I sometimes get an extra window opening with the address :- lp.allfree-apps.net Has anyone any idea how I can get rid of this? I assumed c net was a safe site?? I have also seen a progam that aparently gives the start button we are used to from windows 7 but I am now loathe to download anything. Am I right to be cautious? Many thanks in anticipation of some advice. John. The NOSPIN Group has added a new feature on our website, web based bulletinboard for questions and answers: Visit our sister website at http://nospin.com