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where can we see it again?
I have DirecTV; which channel might it be on?

thanks
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> Robert Winston is well known in the UK.He is infact Lord Winston being
> elevated by the Blair Labour Government.He is also a Professor of
Obstetrics
> with a special interest  in Infertility.Just a little background.It is a
> good series but I have also found it dumbing down but remember it is aimed
> at a generalist audience.The special effects are excellent but gimmicky at
> times.
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>   1. BBC's Walking with Cavemen - episode 1
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> Date:    Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:30:59 -0500
> From:    Keith Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: BBC's Walking with Cavemen - episode 1
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> A few minutes ago I finished watching the first half-hour episode of the
> BBC's 'Walking with Cavemen'.  It's a mixed bag; here are some of the
> positives:
>
> 1.  excellent background to the causes of the climate change that
> transformed the African jungles into savanna and how this transformation
> enabled the evolutionary trajectory of Australopithecus to naturally
> select phenotypes that, eventually, became Homo sapiens sapiens.  This
> part of the program made it abundantly clear how the many parallel
> branches of hominids arose
>
> 2.  throughout the program a convincing account of phenotypic change,
> marred only by an occasional but surprising lapse into ambiguity between
> Lamarckian and Darwinian evolution.
>
> 3.  it is unlikely that the program's producer, Robert Winston, has given
> any thought to Evolutionary Fitness as we know it.  Yet the program showed
> A. afarensis (Lucy's mob) engaged in activities that could have been
> scripted by Art de Vany: close communal living, long periods of relaxation
> and mutual grooming, brief periods of very intense activity
>
> 4.  the only food shown being eaten was fruit.  No fire, no meat.  This
> tallies with what we know about food in this era before the widespread use
> of stone tools.
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> 5.  a convincing re-creation of the paleo environment, including a
> depiction of the vulnerability of Australopithecus without Homo's
> intelligence, language and tools.
>
> And here are the main negatives
>
> 1.  some of the make-up was unconvincing; it looked like someone wearing a
> cut price gorilla outfit.  On the other hand, some was exquisite.
>
> 2.  for a viewer like me - and like others on this list - the script is
> occasionally dumbed down and allowed to become edu-tainment.
>
> At lunchtime today I bought the book produced to accompany the series. Buy
> the book (a) if you have children who enjoyed the program or (b) if you
> want a little additional technical information about paleontology and
> human evolution to complement the program - in easy doses.  Nothing so far
> relating directly to Evolutionary Fitness.
>
> Keith
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> Date:    Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:01:51 +0100
> From:    "J.F.Brumby" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: EVOLUTIONARY-FITNESS Digest - 5 Jun 2003 to 6 Jun 2003
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> Robert Winston is Lord Winston elevated by the Blair Labour Government.He
is
> also a consultant in Obstetrics with a particular interest in infertility
> and it's treatment.I felt that the programme was dummed down but accept
that
> it was to attract a wide general audience.that special effects were very
> clever but Irritating when Winston was tranported to the past.
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> Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:11:21 +0900
> From:    Tom Bridgeland <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: BBC
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> >
> > 2.  throughout the program a convincing account of phenotypic change,
> > marred only by an occasional but surprising lapse into ambiguity
> > between
> > Lamarckian and Darwinian evolution.
> >
> This made me laugh. One thing I have notice repeatedly is the confusion
> even among biologists of Darwinian and Lamarckian evolution. A few
> years back I read an impassioned "defense" of evolution in Scientific
> American. It purported to show how simple it was for complex structures
> to develop, such as the eye, by simple selection. Lamarckian from first
> to last. It is no wonder that so many educated people have trouble
> accepting evolution when even supposed experts offer such poor
> apologies. The subtle gene changes necessary for even "simple"
> phenotypic changes seem to escape people. No surprise at all that a TV
> show couldn't keep this point clear.
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