too bad, I didn't say 'loads' of high glycemic food. and that's my point . .
there are too many variables at work here. much of the empirical evidence
works well in theory only. and many other factors influence dietary outcome
of years of un-healthy eating. people are predisposed to genetical make-up
from the start and health in general . . this is another point I'm making.
Besides, there is no 'bad stuff', only too much or imbalance of food in
general

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Krikorian [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:45 PM
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> Subject:      Re: [EVOLUTIONARY-FITNESS] EVOLUTIONARY-FITNESS Digest - 18
> Feb 2 001 to 20 Feb 2001             (#2001-13)
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>
>
> It certainly is possible to get good strength results and to stay lean
> eating
> so-called complex carbohydrates and sweets, given adequate exercise.
> However,
> these are high glycemic foods in general and stoking the furnace higher
> does not
> eliminate all the negative effects.  Jim Kick, the long distance runner
> who died
> many years ago in his early 50s, is one great example of this notion.  He
> ran
> and ran because his father died in his 40s of heart disease.  He assumed,
> correctly, that he possessed the genetic constitution that would lead him
> to
> early cardiovascular disease as well (most likely a tendency toward high
> insulin
> response).  However, he did not know that diet can modulate the effect of
> genes
> and that exercise alone cannot.  He got 6 or 7 more years than his father,
> presumably because of his running.  But, I assume he consumed a diet
> similar to
> what most people in western cultures consume - loaded with high glycemic
> foods
> that jack up the insulin response and precipitate gobs of negative
> effects, many
> of them having to do with vascular and cardiac risks.  Another example is
> a
> close friend of mine who suffered a heart attack in middle age.  He was
> generally very healthy.  He ate little or no red meat, few sweets,
> moderate
> amounts of fish, and lots of supposedly wholesome whole grain and bread
> products
> (following the establishment dietary guidelines).  He might have died but
> luckily is left with minor heart damage, because he received treatment
> within
> the first hour of the attack.
>
> These, of course, are anecdotes and don't prove the argument.  But, I
> believe
> they dramatically illustrate what empirical studies show.  I believe it is
> a
> mistake to think that one can just burn off the bad stuff in the internal
> furnace.  The bad stuff takes a toll, whether or not one exercises away
> the
> caloric load.  I wouldn't recommend indulging in bread, pasta, grains,
> legumes,
> or sweets at all and certainly not more than once a week or once a month.
>
>      - Robert.