In a message dated 12/22/1999 4:28:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << WINTER SOLSTICE CELEBRATIONS: a.k.a. Christmas, Saturnalia, Yule >> This is fascinating! I knew that Christmas traditions had pagan origins, but you posted a lot that I didn't know. Just tonight I saw a program on the history channel about the origins of Christmas ("Christmas Unwrapped"). The show didn't cover nearly as much as you did, but corroborated what you said in terms of pagan influence. The only difference was that they said the birth of Jesus was thought to have occurred in the spring rather than the fall, but there is probably an argument supporting each supposition. This was really interesting and informative Trisha. Thanks for taking the time to share. It's an honor, especially considering what your work schedule is like right now. Betty