>O There is no reason whatsoever to hurt an infant by > > cutting > > off the foreskin. Think what that must do psychologically to a > > helpless > > infant. They do feel the pain. Although I agree that automatically circumcise infants is useless, I think it's not a reason to condone the procedure altogether. 4 men in my family were not circumcised at birth, and then suffered from infections much later (2 in their teens, one in his thirties, and one at 54) I doubt all this was caused by a general lack of proper hygiene! They all had to be circumcised when the problems appeared. Although I wonder if this was the only way to go, I cannot deny that it rapidly corrected the ailments. As for the pain, being circumcised at 54 probably hurts equally, if not more, than doing it while being a baby (if you add the various discomfort of not having sex and being way more active than a babe). Lilith ............ ........................ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com