I know some martial artists who are also bodybuilders and lifting weights has NOT slowed them down. Yea? Can they touch the tops of their heads Do you *never* increase the weight? I can't see any benefit of being able to do 1000 reps of a relatively light weight, whereas I can see huge benefits of doing 10 reps of an extremely heavy weight. The only "huge" benefits I've seen in this method is, that it does just that, makes you huge. Apples and oranges. Most apes are naturally much stronger than a man. With a difference of four genes between humans and chimps, I wonder how strong a natural human really was. They did have a thicker and stronger bone structure than we did. Might be more like oranges and tangerines. ` [log in to unmask]