Ralph: We sent out letters recently to ask people for their comments (including a SHPO rep), but they aren't due for another week or so. The last possible minute is when I expect to hear from anyone. We do actually have a sympathetic legal staff here, who usually draft these ordinances. Actually, the Council member that introduced this one is a lawyer, and some of us have speculated as to whether he actually decided to take a crack at this one himself before realizing what all is involved in this sort of thing. Anyway, my task in all of this is to present the ordinance to Planning Commission with any recommendations for revisions, at which time I will be pitching the common sense approach that we've discussed here. If the changes are approved there and general concensus abounds elsewhere, the ordinance will be re- drafted by the Law Department for final approval in Council. I'm currently reviewing some ordinances/codes/other legislation from other cities to see what they have on the books to support (hopefully) my proposal. I thought I would throw this one out to BP for some practical opinions. Thanks for your input; I'll let y'all know how it turns out. - NL aka Johnette (yes, that's my real name!)