[log in to unmask] Dear sir, or madam, You said, "This is nonsense, or to use a term that you seem more likely to understand, Bull." I am quite willing, and able to debate some point or other that might become the foci of a dispute, however I will not tolerate attacks on my veracity. What I stated in my post about the discharges slowly burning a small crater (about 6 mm X 6 mm ) in the right side tip of my nose is a established medical fact. If you are not able to accept/understand that with which you have no personal experience, then perhaps you should reconsider your continued correspondence with myself, and others who have mayhaps a slightly wider understanding of what is possible. Dwight [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT), Scranton Computer wrote: > This is nonsense, or to use a term that you seem more likely to > understand, Bull. > > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Dwight Hall wrote: > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > Dear Tom Fowler > > > > You said; > > > > "electromagnetic fields have not been proven to cause any measurable harm" > > > > and; > > > > "All such effects are under the control of the "inverse square" law, which > > states that the power induced by a magnetic or electric field is inversely > > proportional to the distance from the field generator to the effected body. > > if you are 2 inches away, you get the square root of the energy at one inch. > > This puts the lie to almost all such effects at distances of 1 or 2 feet." > > > > Unfoutionetly Your argument falls prey to a even more common non scientific > > malady, statements that are far to broad. There is plenty of evidence of > > damage done to people who get too close to the screen. High voltage jumps > > the gap between the screen, and the body, making a snap that our ears can > > hear, and a pinching/burning pain that usually only lasts a second or two, > > at the site of impact of the charge. > > > > Most of us are familiar with this from static charges, and it is not > > considered as a Really bad thing. The greater damage occurs when the body > > repeatedly is exposed to the charge at the same body site, where slowly > > small bits of living tissue are electrocuted, and sloth off. After some time > > a hole is burned/cut into the body at the site, and it bleeds. > > > > This is continued for as long as the person is forced to repeat the same > > action of placing the body part on the screen. Now as for "inverse square > > law," Well that is also over looked by the sighted, and the fully blind > > also. We who have residual vision, and use it to the max, must often place > > our nose, eyebrow, and or other face parts on the screen to get close enough > > to focus the high magnification lenses we must use to read anything. > > > > So when some point to the extremely low energy of any felid, at two feet, > > they over look those of us who must touch that same screen. We get a > > incredible jolt every time we move on in, starting at over a inch from the > > screen and continuing till after we are touching it. We use the body part to > > wipe off all of the charge and then we can use it with out any further > > pain. > > > > That's when in my case, I would have to stop every few minutes to clean the > > screen of blood, so I could see it. That is all obviated with the simple act > > of wiping the screen with a paper towel, or some other such device each time > > the monitor is turned on. > > > > Good luck, and never give up! > > > > Dwight > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:12:06 -0700, Tom Fowle wrote: > > > > > The article on "computers hurting you"is a fine example of junk science. > > > the author called all the wrong people, first he should have > > > called trained professionals who might have actually been able to > > > find out what was "REALLY" wrong.. First, an ophthalmologist, or perhaps > > an > > > optometrist. A chiropractor has no training in internal > > > medecine or ophthalmology and is therefore not trained to judge > > > anything so subtle as the possible effects of magnetic or > > > electrical fields on the body. > > > > > > All such effects are under the control of the "inverse square" > > > law, which states that the power induced by a magnetic or > > > electric field is inversely proportional to the distance from the > > > field generator to the effected body. if you are 2 inches away, > > > you get the square root of the energy at one inch. This puts the > > > lie to almost all such effects at distances of 1 or 2 feet. > > > > > > most important is our excessive reliance on anecdotal evidence. > > > I feel better so it must work. Is bunk, bunk, bunk. > > > No one understands the power of the mind, it is called the > > > placebo effect and makes observations made by the person taking > > > almost anything totally meaningless. > > > > > > so, although there may be ways computers can hurt you, like > > > dropping one on your foot, buying a cheap mail order machine > > > hoping it will work with your specialized access hardware, or > > > having to use lousy software pushed down our throats by con > > > artists, electromagnetic fields have not been proven to cause any > > > measurable harm, in fact all scientifically done, controlled > > > studies in the legitimate pier reviewed literature show they are > > > harmless.. > > > > > > Sorry I have to go off about junk science, if we don't learn how to > > > spot it, it WILL KILL US much deader than the things the idiots tell us to > > worry > > > about. > > > > > > Tom Fowle > > > > > > > > > VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. > > > To join or leave the list, send a message to > > > [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type > > > "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. > > > VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at > > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > > > > > VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. > > To join or leave the list, send a message to > > [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type > > "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. > > VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html > > > _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. 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