Masons have taken the approch of laying up stone with mud or clay which provides a footing for vines which will hold the stones in place. from Craftsmen of Necessity by Cristopher Williams. great book I read a study Harvard did at one time . There they replaced one ivy with another to limit damage and keep the ivy. They've got to keep it so as not to be bush league. burpsure bob -----Original Message----- From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 4:53 PM Subject: Re: For the Love of Ivy >I love ivy as well......and would Love to Know this "pad clinging ivy" spoken >of. Lets get to the "root" of this ivy discussion - admit it; we love the >warmth and traditional invocations that ivy covered brick/stone structures >imbue. Where would our "ivy league" colleges be when those freshmen and >grads go to register? What on earth would the alumni think? Oh heck...those >lovely visions of the 19th cen cottage I wish I owned would suffer >embarassment at showing their nakedness to the public after being clothed so >many years. So the question is....how do we keep their heads and amputate >those awful, insidieous damaging Roots? > >By the way, Michael, try an oatmeal bath. It is readily available in packets >at pharmacies - soak a while and it helps the "itch". You might also try a >little witchhazel. > >Candy B >