In a message dated 12/10/1998 1:04:03 AM, you wrote: <<What I wanted to say in this message was that studies on vegetarianism are often sponsored by various groups with a bias towards it and the desire to show it as a preferred way of eating. Such a study would almost invariably show this to be the case.>> I think this whole thread has been fascinating. In one way or another, almost everyone has cast doubt on the findings. I, too, had the graduate school experience of learning how flawed most studies are, but, still, it seems closed-minded of us to be sure that we paleo meat-eaters are right. Have the Beef and Pork Councils done studies that show eating meat is good? Who has studied this besides Ray Audette and people interested in the Shackleton expedition and Atkins and his ilk? Caryl