Ah! Thank you Earl and Jim for correcting my understanding and my math. Then, if I get 3.52KB per sec I'm really getting something like 35,200 bps, although it's not all the data I'm d/lding but includes these modem protocol bits as well. That's a little better speed than I'd thought. Thanks again for the clarifications. jonathan gold [log in to unmask] ----- **Need help with PCBUILD mailing list? Send an Email to:** Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> or Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>