<<Disclaimer: Verify this information before applying it to your situation.>> Thanks to all the list members who sent encouraging responses to my earlier posts on this topic. Ultimately, I guess I would have to throw my hat in with Tracey, who states: it seems to me that the less contentious way out -- and maybe easier in the long haul -- is to not necessarily reach an agreement about oats or quinoa ... but to mandate that food companies stop the annoying "and other natural ingredients" practice ... that companies should be required to label precisely what goes into their products, period. Tracey's suggestion makes sense. If a product contains "modified food starch", for example, state the source of the starch If we know exactly what is in each product then we are each free to make our own decisions regarding whether or not those ingredients are safe for us. Of course, there is still the issue of information provided by the celiac organizations about SAFE and UNSAFE ingredients. How about including distilled vinegar, quinoa, etc. in the QUESTIONABLE category and again letting people decide for themselves? This has been an interesting discussion and I appreciate the thought that listmembers have put into the responses I've received and the posts to the list I've seen. Carol Fonken Austin, Texas