Meg, Do a web search for "PPNF" and "Dr. Pottenger". He did a fairly well-known (at least among this group) study on cats and determined that the optimum diet for cats is raw meat. I'm going to switch my dog to all meat and a little veggies as soon as I can afford it. Take care, John Pavao ---------- After reading here on the list and in the archives, it's finally dawned on me that not only have I been eating the wrong diet, but methinks my cat is eating the equivalent of what I used to eat. Does anyone here have suggestions for alternatives? I read an archived message from Ray Audette referring to the "wolf diet" he feeds his dog. Thanks for your advice on this, Meg (lurking, and learning tons)