On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:12:36 -0500 Ilya <[log in to unmask]> writes: >Janine Rae wrote: >> I have not written in a long time but have been following this whole >> debate for days. My question is, am I the only one who found Ilya >and >> Robert Husby to be just as "rude, childish, etc" as Robert Cohen. >One >> cannot argue with oneself. Were these other people removed also? >> Idea? Try removing them and reinstating R. Cohen. Ilya wrote: >Could you please give an example of me being rude, childish, etc.? Ilya, Unfortunately I did not save all the exchanges between yourself and Mr. Cohen and I cannot recall exactly what you said that made me feel the argument was 1/2 yours, not one sided childish. The "etc." in my statement I guess would include the word "lengthy" or some similar adjective. I wrote a 5 line opinion about Robert's removal. You responded with 33 lines. In an effort to not take up any more No-milk space with this silliness. NEVER MIND. Janine >I did argue, but I thought there was an important point(s) to make, >on subjects of interest to this list which I made calmly. I did not >call anyone names, and did try to stick to the argument at hand. >I did point out that Roberts style is to respond with a volume of >anti-milk/anti-dairy statements to virtually any challange of his >statements. (Please realise that I have been a subscriber to this >list since the beginning and have had arguments with him before, >thus very familiar with his style. Thus my remarks to that effect). >I do NOT dispute that milk/dairy consumption has various >undesirable effects on people. I do NOT defend milk/dairy, nor am >I trying to convince people on this list to eat dairy. What I do want >is information about these negative effects, exactly what causes them, >and possible ways to avoid some of them. Milk allergies/sensitivities >are not the only dietary problems out there. I have to restrict my >diet rather drastically for other health reasons. Avoiding all dairy >for >me would make my diet very hard. That's why I want to know exactly >what >I can and can not eat and why. I hope you don't consider people with >other sensitivities unwelcome on this list. > >Unlike Robert I also do not consider recipie discussions boring or >inappropriate - I understand that that's exactly the reason most >people are on this list. I simply would like to be able to discuss >some of the issue of interest to me as well on this list sometimes, >which I do very rarely. The reason I butted in and responded to Cohen >is because he was making blatantly untrue statements that no one else >seemed to be disputing at the time. His interpretation >of various hormonal health effects is completely off. Even so, when >some people on the list expressed a desire for me to stop I did >(without 'agreeing to stop' with Robert, as he claimed). I personally >do not intend to continue a discussion when it is not wanted by >the listeners. > >This is my one and only post defending myself to this list. If >anyone wants to respond, please do so privately. > >Ilya >