>Well, I think that we need to be very careful in how we approach >these things having to do with text formatting. We do need to >understand our limits as blind individuals. We are, without >sighted help, unable to accurately produce documents with tables >and other extremely complex formats and graphs. Darrell, Did I miss something, or wasn't it made fairly clear that the formatting error that caused the rejection was the document wasn't double-spaced as required by the specs? Although I empathise with your assertion that there may be some formatting chores that are beyond our capabilities as blind individuals, other than for highly graphical manipulations and the like, I am hard pressed to come up with many, or at least ones commonly employed in grant applications! Besides, apparantly Dr. Gardner used an assistant for the typing of the proposal, and he was an experienced grant applicant, so much like those of us who got our degrees before blind computer access was a reality, he should have been darn clear about the format of his work before handing it in! That is, before I turned in any of the hundreds of papers I wrote as a student, I made sure they fulfilled any and all format specifications required, and most definitely, something as basic as whether the paper was double-spaced or not would have been evident just by the number of pages! Heck, all I was ever shooting for was a good grade, if I were shooting for the big bucks of a grant, you better believe I'd put in the minimal effort to avoid the error Dr. Gardner and/or his help made! Obviously, blind pride isn't limited to members of any particular blind consumer group, 'eh Darrell? Willie Net-Tamer V 1.10 - Registered