Thanks, Micke. I tried that too. I gained a few pounds, then lost them to end up right back at 200. I'm really stumped. I mean, I'd be satisfied with a net loss of even 1 or 2 lbs a month. But that seems to be out of the question. I guess I'm going to keep looking bad for awhile longer than I'd thought. John Pavao ---------- John, it might be too weird, but have you tried increasing carbs to lose the weight? How about a day or two of carb loading to stir things up, then back to usual eating? You wouldn't have to eat anything non-paleo. I have no idea if that suggestion is reasonable for you. I just wondered if you had considered it as a possibility. ,Micke