Things might look bad for meat on TV, but I was vegetarian for about a year some years ago, and the energy difference between that and this is like night and day. I was always tired. Also, they do tend to sensationalize on TV a bit. Not that I'm saying that none of that stuff is happening (I actually missed both reports)... I mean, if things are really that bad, why aren't all the raw-fooders dropping dead? I've accidentally eaten undercooked hamburger recently, I'm still here. You only see the bad parts of things on TV, because a story about how well the meat industry is doing isn't going to get ratings. Take care, John Pavao ---------- I'll tell ya one thing: the article posted by Brandt about cattle slaughter and the item in the news about germs on chicken makes me glad I'm still a vegetarian. Mary Jackson