<<Disclaimer: Verify this information before applying it to your situation.>> I have just purchased a Zo machine and have made four loaves of Mike Jones basic bread so far. I have eaten some of every loaf and it was very good (As it had been so long since I had even had any bread, I believe wonderful is really a better term). However, I do not have the kneading times and rising times correct as it falls some every time I have made any. I also had the problem of it not mixing well the first time, but from that point on, I just took a wooden spoon at the beginning of the first kneading and helped it along. I have had no trouble with the mixing since then. I add the liquids first then the dry and then the yeast. My question is this: I am confused about the timing sequences of the machine. I set my machine as follows: Kneading, 30 minutes, Rising, 50 minutes, kneading 3 minutes, rising 50 minutes, baking 55 minutes and cooling 30 minutes. I believe I have the rising and kneading times wrong, and maybe even be confused about whether or not it needs a second rising. If anyone out there has any help, please let me know. New to the list, but loving every minute of it. Brenda C. Davis