<<Disclaimer: Verify this information before applying it to your situation.>> You can actually order from Authentic Foods directly, but you need to send a check in advance. It's actually pretty bizarre, but the distributor Thomas Mace sells the Authentic products for *more* than suggested retail price. I have not found a discount source yet. You can also order from Authentic in bulk, without the retail packaging. -- Will Estes U.S. Computer Internet: [log in to unmask] POB 3150 Saratoga, CA 95070 FAX: 408-446-1013