Charlie. I read about all this at CNN

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On Feb 9, 2024, at 5:07 AM, Charlie Bowman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


Hi Peter,

I don’t understand how Biden’s age is impairing anything.  It’s a talking point for Republicans.  The Biden economy is stable, growing and opportunities are growing and available.  For all?  Of course not.  This is America.  Remember, the Republicans voted out equal opportunity.  Not that we ever achieved anything even close.  

If you watched any of the Republican pundits responses to this latest jobs report you can see that hostility and disdain block any awareness of economic progress or support for success in turning around the plunge we experienced from two plagues- Covid and Trump.

I’m responding to you, Peter, and not to Phil. I have given up trying to understand and heal a divided body politic. Like the Third Reich, once enough disinformation is repeated over and over the truth is buried, and people begin to believe the tyrant.  I no longer believe there is a middle ground.

Republicans are a stain to our country.  I wish it was different.

Charlie 

"For green grass and clean rivers, children with bright eyes and good color, and people safe from being pushed around – for a few things like these, I find I am pretty ready to think away most other political, economic, and technological advantages."   - Paul Goodman, 1970


On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 6:18 AM Peter Philippson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Phil, let me explain why I am furiously angry with you.

I have had memory loss since I was 30 (a result of chemotherapy, which you might also experience) and it has got worse as I got older.  I forget names and dates.

Would you call me incompetent to do my work?  Are you not worth paying attention to because you are also old and sick?  Should Richard Kitzler, Erv Polster, Philip Lichtenberg, Bob Resnick etc. have stepped down as leaders?  This is even more true of a President, especially when surrounded by aides who can act as an external memory.  But these days, picking on a prejudice around age or race or gender or sexuality and turning it into a political weapon is a strategy, which Trump has strongly supported by his discriminatory nicknames for people.

How many times must I say publicly 'Oh that sick Phil Brownell who thinks he can play guitar, and is probably a paedophile' before it impacts on how people see you?

And cherry-picking: the most serious thing the special counsel said about the difference between Biden and Trump was not the original taking of the documents, but that Trump then lied continuously about them, obstructed investigation, and that he quoted them for his aggrandisement in ways that could endanger people in the USA.

I would rather an old leader with mild memory impairment and grace than a vicious vengeful narcissist who still believes he won an election.  I do think though that there is something about the American system that means that younger people outside the main narratives are sidelined because voters have been taught politics as a game show with the same older contestants, and won't vote for the younger people (or the young people have to pretend to be like the older people to have a chance).

Peter

On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 at 05:23, Philip Brownell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It’s not just a speech impediment, Dan. The Special counsel’s report is damning. As some comgresswoman has asserted, he either needs to be charged with a crime (like Trump) or be replaced as president on the grounds that he is no longer competent to serve. (NOT that I really look forward to Harris becoming president.)

Phil
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