That is true Phil. And more: if we collapse we can't process anything. The cultures that support not collapsing make therapy much easier, not just war.

Say hi to the KGU people from me.

Peter

On Sat, 23 Sept 2023, 12:40 Philip Brownell, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
One gestalt trainer at KGU put it this way: now is not the time to collapse and process all the crud. Now is still the crisis. Now is to survive. 

Phil

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On Sep 23, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Peter Philippson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


I find it wonderful to work with people who are culturally supported not to collapse into shame but to face what is painful.

Best wishes,

Peter 

On Sat, 23 Sept 2023, 07:48 Philip Brownell, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
We hear about Bucha. 511 (and still counting) people murdered. Many left in the streets. Many tortured in basements for days. But we don’t hear much about Borodianka anymore. Dignitaries are not brought there. It’s a small rural town where a bomb took out the center of an apartment building, and we saw the place on the news when it happened. What we didn’t see was what happened then. The people buried the dead in a mass grave behind the ruins of the apartment building and piled debris on top of it.

Had a great session night before last. Two hours on post-secularity. Today a workshop on spiritual abuse and unfinished business with God. This place (Kyiv) feels like home. I understand, Peter, why you like Ukraine so much.

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______________ Gstalt-L is an independent eCommunity of people interested in gestalt therapy theory and its various applications. Its public archives can be found at http://listserv.icors.org/scripts/wa-ICORS.exe?A0=GSTALT-L, and subscriptions can be managed by clicking on "Subscriber's Corner," which is found at the archives.