It's been a long long time sense I put up any antennas but we just bought a new house with a long narrow lot about 2200 square meters. The house is near one end and the other end is filled with trees. I was thinking about a long wire and was wondering if there is an optimal length. Mostly interested in good DX bands like 20m but 10-40 would be preferred. Would be interested to here any antenna ideas. Was also thinking about Junior's loop but didn't know how critical it is to have it perfectly square. 73 Scott ZL1CHM / N0HOK Auckland New Zealand ps I've put line brakes every line and a half so hopefully you won't get the dreaded "=20" rubbish. Sent from my iPhone