LJD and Haruna, There are lots of question on who knew what in that country. This revelation may lend credit to critics assertions that the government had lost control at the time. I too read Sir Dawda's book and he raised a lot of questions and concerns. He even questioned if Senegal was aware of the coup before it happened thus the presence of the US Navy and the subsequent communication with Senegalese authorities to grand him safe harbor. I was also privilege to sit with for late Director of the National Security Services Uncle Kebba as I used to call him on several occasion. I must tell you he too was not comfortable talking about what happened on that day or his alleged torture in prison. It is just baffling how everything unfolded. Now I even wonder if the Americans did not play a key role in orchestrating the overthrow... How could a joint military exercise be arrange in Gambian shores without the President being aware of it (as claimed by sir Dawda)? Did VP Saihou Sabally knew more than anybody is telling???? hmmmm.. we shall search for answers on how Gambia landed a brutal dictator over a few hours... Kejau, by the way do you know anything about what might have happened to former Minister Koro Ceeay? Any inside security concerns raised about the minister that you might know? Not accusing you of anything just asking because no one seems to be speaking on this issue. Thanks Demba On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Indeed JDAM. It is beginning to appear that the idiot Sabally contributed > to Hon. Hassan's gross error & omission, perhaps by design. However, I > agree with you that Hon. Hassan abandoned all faculty for discernment, > perhaps aware of the imminent threat to the President of Gambia, he > considered minimizing risk to his person. Pervasive disloyalty to nation I > say. Egregious! > > Haruna. I am a bit disappointed in Hon. Hassan. Sabally, I do not know > but appears to me a garden-variety criminal from all I've heard of him > unchallenged by him. > > Haruna. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wed, Jul 31, 2013 4:52 pm > Subject: Re: HASSAN JALLOW LAUNCHES BOOK IN ATLANTA, LABOR DAY WEEKEND > > Haruna > > I also accept Hassan's reservation regarding Sabally. Sir Dawda claimed in > *Kairaba *that he was not aware of the presence of the US Naval Vessel La > Moure County in The Gambia, a transaction negotiated by Sabally as > VP/Defence Minister. > > > LJDarbo > > *From:* Haruna <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 20:44 > *Subject:* Re: [G_L] HASSAN JALLOW LAUNCHES BOOK IN ATLANTA, LABOR DAY > WEEKEND > > If I were VP like Saihou Sabally was, and the President of the Nation's > arrival coincided with the funeral of a relative of mine, I would choose to > serve the nation than to attend the funeral of my relative. I would pay my > last respects to the departed immediately after receiving the president of > Gambia. Hon. Hassan Jallow's explanation I accept. > > Haruna. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wed, Jul 31, 2013 5:13 am > Subject: Re: HASSAN JALLOW LAUNCHES BOOK IN ATLANTA, LABOR DAY WEEKEND > > Daffeh, > > Hope you will have the opportunity to read the book and as someone with > legal background this would be an interesting read for you if you have not > already... Ok, here is what the former Justice Minister explained in his > book. In Chapter 1 page 17 paragraph 3 he states "Apparently it seems there > were questions as to why I did not accompany the President to the State > House and why I was not available for the supposed briefing at the same > venue immediately after receiving him at the Banjul International airport" > > "On July 21st 1994, Saihou Sabally requested me to step in for him and > receive the President at the Airport on arrival as, he told me he had to go > to Farafeni to attend the funeral of a relative. That was how I came to > receive Sir Dawda at the foot of the aircraft on that day. It is now > established that Saihou Sabally was back in Banjul that night, or early > morning and in his office in the morning of July 22nd 1994" > > Apparently according to his narration the Justice Minister did not have > any clue of any security issues or incident at the airport until much later > the next day after the coup. > > According to Mr. Jallow "In the 10 years that I have had the honour and > privilege to serve as Attorney General and Minister of Justice, I have not > participated in or been aware of the practice of any mission briefings > which follow immediately the President's return to the Gambia. When I was > requested to receive Sir Dawda at the airport on 21st July 1994,* I was > advised neither by Saihou Sabally nor by the Office of the President nor by > the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that there would be such a briefing and > that I was required to attend it.* When my absence was noticed for the > supposed briefing of 21st July, no one contacted me for find out why and to > draw my attention to the need for my presence. I would of course have > readily attended if so requested or directed" (Page 17/18) > > "More significantly however is the fact that I had nothing to report to > the President or to any such a briefing in any case. The substantive > business of government was delegated by the President to Saihou Sabally; he > was the only person who could brief the President in the respect given that > my involvement had not been anything more than a mere protocol matterof > receiving Sir Dawda at the airport" > > The rest of his narration can be read from the book! > > This was the explanation the former Minister gave on why he did not > brief the President. Whether people still have questions about why, what > and when... I guess he can still be asked that question. If we are > privilege we will bring a full interview with the Justice minister but for > now that is what I was alluding to. > > Hope that helps. I strongly recommend reading the book especially for > legal minds and those interested in how the justice system worked in the > Gambia and some land mark rulings... > > Thanks > > Demba > > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM, UDP United Kingdom < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Ok, what was his explanation?? We already know he was deputising for the > Vice President at the Airport. So no fuss about that.However, he was there > to perform the role of the VP and both the VP and the president had a > legitimate expectation that he was going to deliver but did he?? Well not > according to Jawara's account. > > The whole point about deputising for somebody is actually to do the job > he/she is suppose to do in that given event or circumstance. Hassan cannot > therefore, turn around and say 'well that is the job of the VP', if that is > what he said. Why did he agree to deputise for him then?? > > Thanks > Daffeh > > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2013, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Mr. Jallow actually did explain in the book why he broke up with the > convoy. In fact when I started reading it that was the part I was most > interested in as well. He went into details as to why he was assigned to > meet the President which was not customary for the Attorney General but > that of the VP... The book I must say makes an incredible documentary of > our justice system, land mark cases and how far we had strife for an > independent justice system. The book is worth reading... > > > > Demba > > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM, UDP United Kingdom < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > >> Father Mose, we also want to know why he (Hassan) broke off from > Jawara's convoy from the airport on the 21st July 1994 after receiving him > (Jawara) at the foot of the aircraft. Jawara complained of receiving no > briefing from the Honourable Minister on his return from an overseas trip, > and this is said to be at odds with existing protocol at the time. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Daffeh > >> > >> On Tuesday, 30 July 2013, Musa Jeng <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > > >> > HASSAN JALLOW LAUNCHES HIS BOOK: JOURNEY FOR JUSTICE IN ATLANTA, > GEORGIA LABOR DAY WEEKEND. > >> > > >> > As the old adage goes, where there is no justice, there will never be > peace. Since the Gambia got its Independence from the British in 1965, > under a questionable future – dubbed as the improbable nation, its > viability was a concern to the international community, including the > British. Justice or the “Journey for Justice” has been a critical component > to the socio-political-economical evolution for this newly independent > nation. Hassan Jallow, hailed from a religious family in the small village > of Bansang was the Minister of Justice and Attorney General during a > critical period of the Jawara government. There are lots of questions that > most Gambians have as to the evolution of rule of law and justice in the > Gambia, and in his book, Hassan Jallow has shed light to lots of issues and > questions: > >> > > >> > In the eighties and early nineties, at the height of the political > jockeying within the PPP players, Hassan Jallow was rumored to be prepared > to replace Sir Dawda. Was this just a rumor? > >> > What happen in July 1994 when young soldiers high jacked the > constitution, and forever changed the political landscape of the Gambia? > How did it happen, and what role or lack thereof has the Minister of > justice played. There were rumors that the Minister of Justice was offered > to continue as the Justice Minister, was this true or just a rumor? > >> > There have been finger pointing that the PPP Government is > responsible for the creation of the Jammeh/APRC rise to power. Is this a > fair characterization of the PPP government? > >> > There has also been accusation that the PPP government not only over > stayed, but the rule of law and justice, especially during the 1981 > abortive coup of Kukoi Samba Sanyang was at its lowest, and undermined the > touted reputation of the Jawara government as a government committed to the > rule of law and justice. Is this a fair categorization? > >> > What actually happen at the meeting in Mansakonko when president > Jawara made his announcement to step down as the leader of the PPP? > >> > What is the real story behind the Senegambia Confederation? > >> > Finally, what does the future holds as to the Gambia’s journey for > justice? > >> > > >> > Hassan Jallow, Minister of Justice under the Jawara government from > 1984 to 1994, currently is the Chief Prosecutor of the UN International > Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (UNICTR), and Chief Prosecutor of the UN > International Residual Mechanism for Criminal Tribunals (UNMICT), will be > in Atlanta, Georgia, this labor day weekend to launch his book and have a > conversation with Gambians in the Diaspora. As we continue to seek and > aspire for change in the Gambia, it is important to have these > conversations with people who were there, and together we will find the > pathway for peace, prosperity and justice in the Gambia. 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