Kejau,

Your observation is dead on. The Muslim brotherhood is part of Egyptian political DNA; unless the military and their opponents disband them and run them out of Egypt, chances are they will compete in general elections to come. What if they present a candidate that is democratically elected again? Weeding out candidates for their ideologies should be done during campaigns.

Will the Egyptian Army continue to depose every legitimate government elected by the people just because a part of the population some of whom voted for that party, inexplicably wake up, dissatisfied with how the government runs and muster around squares? Regardless of how many people were at these squares, it may not be the majority of Egypt. What about the rest of the people? I guess they don’t deserve to be heard and respected by the Generals they pay.

It is a terrible thing to talk about democracy and rule of law for some and not all. No Army of any nation should shoulder the responsibility to make a decision for the people of that nation. Once that gate is open, we may never be able to control the flood that follows.

The ideal thing would have been for the Army to control the chaos if the local police could not handle the situation, restore peace and stability in the nation then allow lawmakers to do the job they were hired to do. We must give chance to systems in place to take their course. If we think it is ok for Egyptian army to topple the elected government of the people and put in an interim government then I guess we have to evaluate our stance on other issues.

On the issue of US aid, Egypt is a very big ally of the US government in that region. I don’t foresee their aid package drastically changing anytime soon. With all honesty US make a lot of money from Egypt in terms of weapons and repair parts for those high tech weapons we sold and donate to them.

Khaleel

Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:00:59 -0400
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Egypt tense as army deadline looms
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Thank you Kejau for sharing Norway and Turkey. Thank you for sharing Dr. Malang, Uncle Koro, and the Pastor.
What says Kejau?? The idea Niamorkono shares is one of occult dictatorship. Not Islam or Christianity. Niamorkono recognizes there can also be industrial occult as there is religious occult.

Haruna.

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From: Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Jul 4, 2013 5:36 am
Subject: Re: Egypt tense as army deadline looms

Fye,

How exactly is Egypt and Turkey not a secular system? Secularism is enshrined in their constitutions, yet you chose to call them Islamic! If the Kristelig Folkeparti, the Norwegin Christian Democratic Party wins elections, you may not say this. What exactly makes these parties Islamist. The Refah Party, The Welfare Partisi of Turkey, has brought in more democracy, the rule of law and unprecedented development and more peace with the separatist PPK than ever before seen in the history of Turkey, yet you want them out, just because the Christian West, want them out.

As Dr. Malang said, the people get the government they deserve! The Armed Forces in Egypt chose to defend the illegitimate demonstrations instead of the legitimate winners of the elections. History will judge them and as Pastor often quipped, the consequences of their actions will be devastating for years to come.

The question lingering now is, they promised fresh elections, will they disband the Muslim Brotherhood and if not will they continue to push them out, whenever they win elections, which they will poise to do in the near future.

As Uncle Koro Sallah said, security is a very important arm of our existence and we cannot afford to relegate them to the bottom. The US government is being asked by its democratic and peace loving people to consider their aid package to a military that fails its historic responsibility and the actions the Obama government and the west takes will have consequences for all us for years to come.

Thanks,

Kejau

Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:07:06 +0200
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Egypt tense as army deadline looms
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Folks..

Egyptian people wants a secular system with democratic values and transparency not an Islamic dictatorship...So i support the army on this one for getting rid of Morsi and hopefully the Islamist will not succeed in both Turkey and Tunisia as well...I wish the interim team all the best of luck..

For Justice

Niamorkono

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:12 AM, dbaldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Cousin Haruna, history doesn't bear witness to military relinquishing power to the people... they get push out by another and another. . Etc.. we shall witness this one too inha- Allah... happy 4th

Demba

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Date: 07/03/2013 7:27 PM (GMT-08:00)
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On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Haruna,

You seem to have a lot of fate in the people's ability to control the military.

Malanding

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On Jul 3, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

And the military will be removed by the people if they turn against the people by rigging elections. Where are Rawlings and ATT now?????????????????????????????

I encourage you to have faith in the great people of Misera.

Haruna.

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From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Jul 3, 2013 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: Egypt tense as army deadline looms

Great observation brother Khaleel, in the long run these military turns out to become so called civilian leaders with sham elections... Remember JJ rawlings in Ghana... he tested it first, stepped down and came back later... same thing with Tumani Toure of Mali... It is simply dangerous to give the military with guns so much power... They won't have any respect for the civilian government and the civilian become a puppet of the military institution... Unprecedented indeed! It would be interesting to observe and document developments...

Demba

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Khaleel Jameel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I will need to start reading to see if the Egyptian military is a branch of government that give them the obligation and authority to change a democratically elected government of the people by the people. I guess one great thing I can compliment them on is that they didn't put a military personnel as the head of the interim government but their statement is loud and clear to anyone with the hopes and dreams of ruling Egypt. "We can and will get you out of power as we see fit" forget about the rule of law.

Khaleel

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" Give to yourself as much as you give of yourself".

On Jul 3, 2013, at 15:29, "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Its confirmed the military has taken over in Egypt... breaking news now....

Demba

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I think we must come to accept that a people deserve the leaders they get. Just stay tune.

Malanding Jaiteh

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On Jul 3, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

True Malamin, but there is a process through which this can be addressed. It is call a democratic process and elections. If they are not happy with Morsi they can vote him out the next time around.. Where does it end is my question? If you elect another leader and quarter of the country is not happy, do you topple them as well? Where does it end? Citizens can engage in activism but violence is intolerable and could be detrimental and turn the country