Bro Sunta,
 
To be frank i did not read everything that Halifa said with regards to the UDP,if you are claiming that Nyang just repeated what Halifa has been saying,well  to correct that will be easy,we will certainly hear from Nyang. I have been reading a lot of  Nyang here ,i follow him closely because he is a very young intelligent person ,good at reasoning. There is absolutely northing wrong for him to have differences of ideas with his party on issues,even in a communist party ,members do have different opinions on  issues at times,what is important is to front the party line and not the invidual, more so in the open scene. Halifa might not be addressing Nyang on the Raleigh issue simply because he might have already dealt with the issue and secondly Nyang was speaking more on the issue of the failed alliance in between the lines you can see the attack on Ousainou (which might not even be intentional) and Nyang is  a party member and this could have been the reason why his party reacted to put the records straight. Do you think if I go on to attack Darboe ,saying that he is coming with misleading statements on a particular issue as sensitive as this issue i should be expecting a response from PDOIS ?no I dont think so, simply because when I speak i am doing it as an individual,am not a member of any political party.
No Suntu,dont give up on the opposition back home,i have heard many saying the same thing,i still believe that we have no reason to do so,they are the only genuine force on the ground who can bring about change in the country,i sincerely hope that you will  rethink again on that,we need them more than they need us,lets keep the talking going on it is healthy.
 
For Freedom
Saiks
 

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:35:26 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Reply from Halifa Sallah to Modou Nyang via Maafanta
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Saiks, correct me if I am wrong, if it is the statements below that Mdou Nyang stated which prompted Halifa's response, then, still what LJD said is on the money. If being critical of other parties in opposition is fair play, what is wrong with what Modou Nyang said about UDP and UDP Leader to warrant Halifa's response?
Here is some of Mdou Nyang's remark:
 
 "I heard UDP’s Ousainou Darboe reiterating his party’s stance on the now dizzying mantra of the party with the biggest share of votes leading any alliance. A PDOIS representative could have also outlined PDOIS’ stand as one that is not opposed to having a member of the party with the largest following leading an alliance as a candidate, but what it may not do is to have a group of individual sit in a room and work to put him/her into power. 

 For instance a PDOIS representative could have been handy to clarify the miss leading statement by Ousainou Darboe the leader of the UDP regarding PDOIS’ readiness for alliance formation with the PPP in 2001. Darboe in trying to justify his party’s handling of the 2001 alliance talks that excluded PDOIS and NRP, in response to claims bordering on those matters by Hamat Bah, said that it was inconceivable for PDOIS and PPP to join the same alliance in 2001." Modou Nyang.
 
Halifa has in the past postulated similar remarks all over the place. Where did you think Modou Nyang got his ideas from? Not in thin air.
What is relevant is that, the urgency in Gambian politics cannot be restricted to one place. Wherever moral courage can be garnered, it should be pursued. If the polical leaders wish to hold hands and march peacefully, people will join them. No one is stopping them.
 
Hence, Halifa should address Nyang on the conference, not on fringe issues. The UDP if they deemed it necessary can respond to Modou Nyang adequately and fittingly.
Mdou Nyang is only repeating Halifa's past rethorics, nothing more, nothing less. The olive branch is stretched, but I think the hopes will be on others, not on the current crops of opposition leaders. The games of 2011 end it all for all of them.
SUntou




On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
LD,

After reading the letter from MR Sallah i am not at all surprised that he was out to put the record straight. Mr Nyang is a member of the PDOIS and for that reason whatever he says and do will surely reflect on this fact. I reacted myself  to what Nyang said here about Darboe and insist that much more is expected of him than those few lines in address a party leader ,which was more a personal attack. You and I can write and say a lot here without thinking aloud as to party affiliation but Nyang is a future leader, a member of PDOIS. I disagree that all party issues should be dealt with internally, there are certain issues such as this in which the party needs to speak out for public consumption.

There is another thing that Mr Sallah raised in his letter which we definitely need to have in mind, one  ,our role should be supporting the ground forces and move them towards a common objective and not otherwise. That PDOIS attacking, UDP,NRP or PPP is just natural, it is politics and not personal attack. These are political parties who are competing for the votes, inviting each other for a debate or attacking each others programme does not in any way mean that they should not be able to reach a common goal. What am saying is that, Darboe attacking MR Sallah or the other way round does not in any way negate the fact that they have respect for each other. Look around you and you will find government coalitions of different political parties who have been involved in better election rivalries prior to voting, in Greece, in Norway, etc

The substance here, which I believe should have been an issue of discussion, is the point raised by Halifa, that Nyang should show respect to a party leader. Nyang has been here criticizing the politics of UDP without any reaction from his party because that is expected of him, personal attacks are not and should not be entertained, this is what I believe Halifa and PDOIS are addressing. It will be hypocritical of Halifa to act as if there are no wide political differences between him and Dorboe and the same goes for Darboe too and that is not the issue here.

The other issue been that Nyang, Pa Samba, D.A Jawo have all expressed their disappoint with regards to the standpoint of the political party they are members of or are  sympathetic to with regards to the Raleigh conferences. This is just healthy for a democratic party and the same would have happen with the UDP had it been the issue, I believe. The above mentioned names are more sympathetic to the PDOIS than I am ,but I am more sympathetic to the PDOIS reasoning for not coming to Raleigh than the three of them. Let’s get our acts together and challenge the forces on the ground ,it will then  be much more difficult for them to accept dealing with Jesse Jackson and ignore us.I have no doubt that Nyang will understand why his party need to speak out in the open with regard to this issue.

For Freedom

Saiks

 

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:43:05 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Reply from Halifa Sallah to Modou Nyang via Maafanta
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Thanks Sariang, and I still celebrate Nyang's unprecedented courage in dealing with the uncomfortable question of Raleigh as far as PDOIS' absence from that exploratory unity meeting. 

If Halifa's posture is to be believed, he confirmed our reservation about Nyang venturing into unsolvable contentious territory, i.e., the issue of failed attempts at coalition building over the years, and how in his considered estimation the UDP bears responsibility on that front. However, I must say I am suspicious of Halifa's true intentions in the manner he reacted to Nyang's perspective on Raleigh.

According to Halifa, "the opposition leadership on the ground has been showing tremendous respect for each other since the Presidential elections". In reality, what constitutes "the opposition .... on the ground", and who is the "leadership" of that "opposition"? 

As far as active politics, the opposition on the ground, in order of electoral strength comprises the UDP, NRP, and PDOIS. And the leadership of that opposition is Ousainou Darboe, Hamat Bah, and Halifa Sallah. This must be the first realistic starting point. Any attempt to place the defunct PPP, and the clearly non-existent GPDP, in the same category is a complete nonsense.  Similarly, any attempt to place OJ, and Henry Gomez, on the same footing with Ousainou, Hamat, and Halifa ought to be seen as foolhardiness. It exemplifies the Gambian farce of maslahah and must be rejected. 

Among those with electoral following, and therefore the bona fide opposition, it is not accurate for Halifa to claim that "the opposition leadership on the ground has been showing tremendous respect for each other since the Presidential elections". Halifa's recent combative letter to Hamat challenging him to a "debate" or "joint press conference" cannot be regarded as "tremendous respect" under any sensible construction of that phrase. In the immediate post-election period, Halfa also launched a scathing attack on OJ. Notwithstanding my view that OJ is not a bona fide opposition leader, where was the respect in that attack by Halifa?

If Halifa's "tremendous respect" is in doubt, his implicit defence of Ousainou, and the UDP must be in doubt. I am obviously unpersuaded by Halifa's ostensible reason for coming after Modou Nyang. In his own way, Daffeh is holding the UDP corner quite well, and if Halifa is sincere in his overall reaction to Nyang, the proper course of conduct would have been to engage him privately.

I have no interest in milking this unfortunate dispute, but as the matter is in squarely in the public space, I am very suspicious of the real driver behind Halifa's public pursuit of Nyan but I am confident the course of time would provide sensible guidance on the point. 



LJDarbo    
 


From: sariang marong <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 5:58
Subject: [G_L] Reply from Halifa Sallah to Modou Nyang via Maafanta

Courtesy of Maafanta. Please take it away folks.
Halipha Sallah warns Modou Nyang - maafanta.com (via @Fatou Jaw Manneh)

Re: PDOIS must not have missed Raleigh

Dear Modou Nyang,

After reading the brilliant interviews conducted by Maafanta, the Central Committee of PDOIS has resolved to issue a statement of the Raleigh Conference which we still consider to be a brilliant initiative even though people like you have misconceived the direction it should have taken. This was a conference aimed at bringing people together and not to knock heads against each other. It was a conference for the humble and purposeful and not for the conceited and self-righteous.

It was a conference to search together for answers and not to direct angry invectives against each other. It should have been a unifying conference not a divisive one. It is unfortunate that you have used the language you did to interrogate what Mr Ousianou Darbo said. We would not use such a language against a person who has not given us any cause to do so. You as a Gambian citizen are entitled to the way you view things and make use of the English language. Prudence dictates that you weigh your words before putting them down. What are you really trying to gain for making the remark you made in the public space? How will this enhance the integrity of what you stand for or the cause of the Gambian people?

What you have succeeded in doing is not the defence of principles but the pitting of PDOIS against everyone in opposition. I do not know how such a positioning of PDOIS on the political landscape of the Gambia could ever earn it the confidence of any one. What the Gambian people need at this stage is not endless bickering or the depicting of the opposition as a force in disarray. What the Gambian people need is a message of hope and solidarity to promote their liberation.
The opposition leadership on the ground has been showing tremendous respect for each other since the Presidential elections. This is reflected at the grassroots level. The Diaspora should be reinforcing this instead of putting iodine on healed wounds.

We hope you will take your time and read the statement issued by the Central Committee which you would be able to interrogate in your own Committee meetings abroad and at any Congress. Internal party Democracy is the way forward for the future. Clarity however is indispensable if it is to breed a consensus based on truth, good faith and the National interest.

Halifa Sallah
 
Leadership is understanding people and involving them to help you do a job. That takes all the good characteristics, like integrity, dedication of people, selflessness, knowledge, skill, implacability, as well as determination not to accept failure.  (Admiral Arleigh A. Burke).


From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 6:04 AM
Subject: PDOIS fatl mistake: Admits Modou Nyang

 
Modou Nyang's commentary is lucid, I hope the Central Commitee in Banjul listen. Gambians are bored of the same rigmarole...I hope Halifa goes easy on Modou Nyang..he is not an enemy.
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