Yes man bro. I agree to the Congress's minute including properly electing members as necessary. I will be there. Sent from Kejau's iPhone On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:53, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Suntou > I am following the discussion with keen interest. Mr Abdoulai Jobe self-claim Secretary General od Coalition of Human Rights UK. Adhoc body created through the brain child of Abdoulie Bojang for us to replicate the efforts of the Senegalese group. I just don't know when will this bragging stop! Few handed picked individuals are selected and now turn the organisation as it is a democractic organisation instituted through a congress with a ratified constitution and elected executive. It is better talking about UDP but what of Coalition Human Rights UK. Who are the elected executive? Who is running the show if not Abdoulai Jobe and Malik Kah? Who gave them mandate making series of Press Release and representing the interest of the organisation in different fora? As we advocate for democracy all our action and deed should be democratic. I cannot follow individuals like cult movement even if you are old loke bibilical script. Since Abdoulai Bojang came up the ideal in 2008 no impact is made on the ground but silly talking and uncountable lies. Alieu Ceesay have make impact and how long a go? I have challenge the undemocratic nature of the movement and was great to learn that I am not a member. Where are the members then? Even the brain child of the idea is excluded in the coalition. I am am sick about upmanship and ego. Suntou you a member but ask yourself what is happening? I am calling for congress after the Gambia Day of Action. > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:39:50 +0100 > Subject: Re: [>-<] uncle jobe on radio Freedom > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjfI2Ri_Wss&NR=1 (Listen to Ousainou explain certain things you never have heard from him). Humility is not equal to lack of knowledge or capability. The UDP is structured to accommodate any Leader, be it Dr Saine, Ansu Koroma, anybody. The interview is several part, you can start with part 1 if you can convince your self. > > Mr Jobe > Good to see you write something elongated for once. When a dubious personality like you comes on a platform, the Host is the key holder of such a program or platform. The Host of Jamano Show (Seedy Ceesay) keep reminding listeners that, "I have my independent panelist with me" and he will venture on to name all of you. > Mr Jobe, you are never short of words, therefore, why didn't you remind Mr Ceesay, sorry brother, I am neutral sometimes, but other times I am not. > The onus lies on you to properly demarcate what you refer to as your 'human rights work' and your political work. If you cannot differentiate that enough, then really, you are in the wrong profession of being tout as someone independent. > The reason why we responded to you is simple. Your petty questions which require short and direct answers are amplified by you for some altruistic reasons is what is laughable and baffling. > I understand that, you have your feelings, friends, opinions and leanings. The mistake you made is accept the clear direct statement the Freedom Newspaper send to Gambians, that is, 'We' have an independent human rights activist Mr Abdoulie Jobe talking to us here. > Mr Jobe, from the when I appeared with you on Freedom Radio, I knew where your heart is, because you cannot even conceal it. So it was matter of time before you left yourself exposed. But I guess, after 30 years in England, I wonder if the desire is there to abandon the comforts. If not, even on youtube, the policy issues you raised are there with the UDP leaders explaining the party's ideas and directives. A serious independent pundit will thoroughly check his facts before speaking. I just worry for you because you tend to be very keen chatting to the radio host before doing your homework. > In 1997 when you claim to have asked Ousainou about some questions. I guess it is similar to the Land Reform. Now Mr Jobe, is fairly compensating land owners not the best way to help those without lands? If not, then tell us, in practical terms how you think land can be redistributed? This answer will help many understand what you are attempting to put across. The answer will help you focus on what matters now, that is how to Unite and put a good fights against Jammeh. > Secondly, Jobe, on Caste system, we believe that, it is not an urgent matter for an opposition party to focus on something without been in government you cannot do anything about. > A perfect example is the Liberal Democrat, Conservative party U.K Manifesto (they all ended changing course because, in opposition, you don't have the clear blue print of the state of affairs). The Conservative party promised to do certain things when elected, now they cannot do them, the Liberal Democrats promise to do certain things, now they cannot do them. Will you agree with me that, it doesn't mean they don't know how or that, they don't have the ideas, but because the finances are not there. > Therefore, an opposition party can put the most lenghty of academic paper, flattering perceive intellectuals, in our case a few pretender clique however, the reality is, unless you get in government, you don't know how serious things are. > I will digress, our brother Obama is not a man short of words. He spout them out eloquently and clearly, Mr Jobe your voice is husky and unclear, but Obama, let the man be free to speak. He promised 'Change you can Believe In' however, still with his clear and succinct promises, things are not happening yet. > This is politics, it is not what it seems. I am not faulting you for going with your heart. Actually, you don't need to deny where your heart belongs since, you are very insignificant in our political struggle, because after 30 years in exile, you are only seeing things in the Era you left it. > Another issue worth highlighting is that, many people who left the PDOIS claimed to have done so, they said, the 'elders don't practice what they preach'. I asked one former member now working in similar prototype organisation like PDOIS why did they guys left to form their own Pan-Africanist oriented organisation, his answer was, "if to keep telling Gambians that, sovereignty belongs to them, but cannot influence the decision within the inner structure of the organisation lecturing to them such principles, then something is not right" > And sadly this has been the hallmark of many so-called over caring African leaders. They end up becoming dictatorial with their thinking. > On Agriculture, UDP has many experts waiting to take care of that sector. If you visit Darboe's interview on the subject were he is not interrupted or the line is not disruptive, he advocated for utilisation of processing facilities in the Gambia. Today, the cooking oil in the Gambia is the worst in AFrica. Many people are eating only locally produce groundnut oil made in the upcountry. There is no tangible processing plants. This plants will help maximise the prise of groundnuts. Farmers will be assisted with fertilisers, because even lay men in Agriculture knows that, the land in the Gambia less fertile. > The UDP has articulated on every important sector of our country. What we will not do is appease those calling for unworkable Socialist Ideas that will end up been abandon. Free Market with regulations and the protection of indigenous businesses. Darboe remarked that, "no high government official should engage in business, thereby disadvantaging hard working ordinary citizens." We care about Gambians in practise, we don't write themes to please dreamers outside. We attend functions, traditional events, organise meetings etc with Gambians. So nothing you pretend to appres is beyond or outside our radar. Thanks > Oh by the way, I heard that, your house is too big for one person. Wouldn't it helpful to do a deal with your council so that, families with children can use it whilst you vacate it for them. A single bedroom flat will be suitable for single man like you Jobe. Or are you also preaching what you cannot practise? I wonder. Thanks > Suntou > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:00 PM, abdulai jobe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Folks > I like to make some comments on rejoinders on an interview with Freedom pertaining to UDP Party and a discussion with one of their reps/supporters in London. > Normally i do not bother to respond to remarks of the type that are pointedly personal by individuals who accuse me of bias when they stand on that same alter carrying on in the same vain. > Most of us on this net take issue with yahya jammeh's regime for its zero tolerance on dissent and colossal Rights violations.Its then quite ironic that we then display the same trait of intolerance with those who espouse views that take issue with our political leanings,to the point of misrepresenting such views to suit their positions. > > Mr.Sountou Touray in his zealous quest to defend UDP appears to take such an undefensible position.He asserts that i am meant to be a Neutral arbiter of sorts when he said that i had portrayed self as an "independent opinion maker"(whatever that means).He asserts by inference i am meant to be neutral politically in my role in bringing Gambian parties together to fight the Jammeh Regime. > May be suntou can tell me when it is that i signed up to this garbage of Neutrality.A Neutrality in which i had abdicated my political views and outlook.Sountou appears to see a contradiction between my work in Human Rights and taking a political view of matters Gambian. > I get the feeling that if i had declared support for UDP Mr.Sountou Touray would not have complained..that would've been alright i suppose. > Mr.Touray also suggested i had taken the position i was only interested in the removal of yahya jammeh.Since when and where did i remotely say this?I find it sickening that some people think the struggle to remove yahya Jammeh is the only task we need accomplish and all else will follow.This is both opportunist and reckless.Unless there is a broad based political consensus and a programme of transition,spelling out cllearly the way forward,we might end up in the jaws of those who are organised on the ground and poised to fill in the power vacuum..and put in their own programme. > Contrary to What Mr.Sountou Touray says,i am far more concerned about what future we build for Gambia(post yahya jammeh),than simply getting rid of the dictator. > > Mr.Touray then proceeds to suggest i was a member of PDOIS(this is dishonest ) and a false representation of my views.I said categorically i did not belong to any Opposition political party.This includes PDOIS,although i admit without reservation i find some of PDOI'S policies and practices appealing,as opposed to those of all the others including those of UDP. > > For the record i stand by my observations,views and outlook as well as my opinions of UDP as per radio telecasts i took part in. > > > > > -- > www.suntoumana.blogspot.com ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤