Thank you Joe, for once again saying it is. It is time agree for all those greedy sycophants to know that Yaya will come after them one by one by as Turkish instructor used to say. Next it will be Fankung and folks will want to fight for his right to justice even though he has never fought for anyone even the ex sycophants. 

This hopefully will send a signal to all sycophants that Gambians are tired of them and if they fall out with their baboon Mansa it will be a jubilation here. Nough is enough.   

Sent from Kejau's iPhone

On 21 Jun 2011, at 16:53, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Paco, thanks for your thoughts and I respect your opinion, but disagree with your position.  You see, I also happen to know the same argument you posed but I am not going to be suckered. Amadou did nothing to me joining Yaya and it was his right to join Yaya, which is why he could exercise that right.  Equally, I am exercising my right to not hold the bucket for none, especially those who willfully thumb their nose against decency to deal with the devil eyes wide open.  Did Amadou fight for the rights of Gambians while SOS?  I mean the murdered, jailed, vanished, etc.?  No he did not! I am not here to be all things to all people.  This is becoming a facade amongst us, to deal with the devil and then expect others to look to divinity to their rescue.  Amadou is no ordinary Gambian and he is going to be called to order once again to be accountable.  The man said he chose Yaya over the misery of Gambians when it pleased his wallet.  He is with his associate and I will allow them to sort it out.  Too many of us have been engaged in this nonsense.  I would not worry about Joe when Joe is speaking for himself.  Those of you of the persuasion that Amadou is the symbol of injustice in the Gambia, bless your heart and I say march on.  You mentioned Lang Tombong.  Where was Lang Tombong the last 17 years when Yaya was abusing and continue to abuse Gambians?  He was right there living off our fat with friends and loved ones. You did not see me shed a tear for him, did I?  like I said, I do not wish Amadou his current situation, but I have other important things to do.  Innocent victims I will fight for and none needs to coax me to stand up with them as long as their injustice is not prosecuted.  

Paco, there is a reason why even the most tolerant of the tolerant in religion created a mental state call hell.  There are literally millions of humans toiling in jails around the world as I write and some of them are in the so-called democracies. Parents spank their kids, etc. It is called the real world.  I never professed to be a tree hugger.  I am looking at the interest of our lot and not the willfully fraudulent.  Question for you, where you here when Amadou joined Yaya?  What did you say to him, then?  I see some folks come out here that I never knew they existed here.  It is routine of us to mind our business while others suffer, but want to call for a revolution when someone close to us is in trouble.  Another question for you.  While Amadou was hob nobbing with Yaya and this insensitive Joe happen to be netted by Yaya, in the Gambia.  Do you think (a) Amadou will fight for my rights; (b) resign in protest; (c) visit my ravaged leftover in Mile Two; or (d) none of the above?  I don't profess to know you, but by your writing here, I am pretty sure of your choice.  Finally, since Amadou outed his affiliation with Yaya some years ago, can you tell us what Amadou has participated in this struggle with our monster.  No, he was minding his business all along.  Amadou along with CCG knew why they did not mention his affiliation on-line.  Paco, there is a reason why the majority are silent on the case of Amadou, and I am not the cause.  It is the ugly trail left behind.  On the issue of high regards, it was with even the worst that humanity ever presented us: Hitler, Amin, Chucky, Doe, Mobutu, and even Yaya.  Can you believe Yaya has many loved ones who are prepared to vote him the most handsome of Gambians. ! Anyway, this is my story.

Joe

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:37:10 -0400
Subject: Re: [>-<] RE: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested 
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Joe, 

   This fight is bigger than Amadou and whatever issue(s) you have with him.  Let people who want to fight injustice take it upon themselves  and fight injustice regardless of who the victim is.  Some of us know what Amadou did and need no reminder.  If we are to go around town prosecuting or holding grudges (rightfully or not) for the "enablers" of Jammeh who are now on the other side of the fence (possibly with us), then we are just sowing the seeds of conflict in our nation. Whether you like it or not, there is a portion of Gambian society who still hold these people in high regards.  Lang Tombong and his cronies currently all jailed at mile 2 did far more damage to our nation than Amadou... yet when the need arose, some of us cried out loud not for their sake but for the sake of the respect for rule of law.  Yesterday was Lang, today is Amadou and tomorrow may be anyone of us here.  We are not doing it for them and this is a message you need to get.  

Thanks, 

Paco

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

All, I followed the exchange regarding "Scattered".  Those of you who were around when Amadou joined Yaya, after roaming the hill of Appalachia, Moonshine and all, as the expert on "Yaya the Tyrant" may recall I called him "Scattered".  Thus, I will pick up from where I left off.  Now, it is human and sympathetic on some of us to ignore the contradictions and opportunistic nature of "Scattered" to call for his release and that is noble of you.  We would not wish our worst enemy in his shoes for we know what is currently happening to him - Torture and Bestiality.  Yes, we should make sure the Dictator does not have a free hand with Amadou, even though the likes of Amadou makes it very hard for Gambians to stand up for them.  That is the reason why the cool roar.  Yes, we may forgive, but we shall never forget.

Now, let's transition to liberation talk and the subject at hand, "Scattered".  None can compare Amadou with Lamin Darbo as it relates to Yaya.  A better comparison would be with Ma Best (as George Bush would say), Uncle Morro. Lamin, like Joe here and the vast majority of Gambians were tired of Jawara sleeping at the switch and were ready to give these thugs a chance to prove themselves wrong.  On the contrary, Amadou was Scattered all over the US howling about Yaya The Terrible, the last I recalled was a gathering at Howard University that coincided with Bill Clinton's "Summit on Africa", flooded by well meaning African intellectuals, but out numbered by intellectual wolves, vultures, and hyenas.  At the time Amadou was teaching at Tennessee State and / or Savana State. He lost his position there and that is the introduction of the real Amadou to most Gambians.  We woke up one Monday morning with Amadou Scattered all over the place telling us he is impressed with Yaya and the work he has done and the "Infrastructure Developments", etc.  I jumped all over him on this here distro and his friends and relatives were here in full force to tell us that Mr. Scattered, is here to give back to his country, never mind the the gross contradictions in his actions just a day apart.  Around the same time or before, we also woke up to some of you all's favorite Koto Sidie (Morro Sidie to me) changing hydes.  He transformed from giving Yaya a Left Hand endorsement as his resident Adviser on the Post and L, to a full Chess Pressing Hug, "Grand Mbouba" and all.  Folks, there is no beating about the bush, but you cannot get more opportunistic than this bunch.  They are very calculating and lethal to their detriment.

Now, fast forward to June 2011 and Scattered is now in the hands of the person he supposedly loathed at one point, then loved to death (at our expense), then discarded and disgraced.  Sounds like a reading of the life cycle of a cockroach. Anyway, how did Amadou end up where he is today?  Better yet, what is the timing of the surfacing of CCG in our midst.  The CCG came out with a lot of smoke and when all expected to see some fire after the winds died down, then, the end. Folks, if there is one thing we as Gambians need to stop is to keep propping two or three person outfits and calling them organizations.  CCG brought this to themselves.  First of all, they came and announced their Grand Entrance and named only one individual.  That was a red flag right there.  I kept asking who are these people that want the support of Gambians, but saw it fit to hide their IDs.  Then I started getting confused by their mission.  At first I heard they were supposed to be a group to facilitate talks among the opposition leaders, I have not seen any evidence of that.  Then the goal post moved a little further up field that it is supposed to be some sort of pressure group.  Then it murphed into a Tahir Square, Gambia.  Finally, I woke up to hearing that Amadou, who has done opposition nothing even when he was supposed to be the Appalachian expert on Yaya the Terrible, is arrested with T-Shirts to jump start the people's revolution, and is now charged with treason or what ever.  I can hear some readers loosing patience with me already, but hang on just a bit.  The CCG also told us they have mass support on the ground and I kept wondering, where are those people to stop some five thugs to not pick up Scattered.  No, folks, we need to cut this facade and call this its proper name.  Amadou calculated wrong again, just like he did when he joined Yaya.  There was no mass grass nothing but a pretext.  Now, this same group that kept running around circles on Gambians is now accusing Gambians for being lukewarm when Yaya inviting his buddy.  Let none assault our intelligence that Amadou was fighting to liberate Joe.  That would be a bold face lie.  No, he thought he saw a pony to ride to head the pac and he gambled on the wrong pony.  Amadou is by no means the only opportunist to calculate a Tahir Square in Gambia.  Many others are in the shadows and I hope they learned a thing or two with Amadou's situation.  Fly by night will not cut it.  You are dealing with a dictator and thus, you need to equip yourself with muscle to stop any five thugs.  This is the reason why the opposition parties are hesitant to lead the people to the streets, precisely because they failed to inculcate resistance within their grassroots. Thus, Darbo, Halifa, OJ, Hamat, etc. know if Yaya wants to pick them up to Mile Two, not a muscle will twitch. When citizens are nabbed not a muscle twitches with the leaders, thus, when the leaders are nabbed not a thing will happen but gossip over Ataya.  The other thing is Amadou is supposed to know Yaya better than Joe the Plumber here, thus, why not I allow him to reason out with his buddy before I disrupt their session.  Amadou had many Yapu Harr Sessions with Yaya while SOS, and am pretty sure he did not feel the pain of the murdered, the disappeared, the arrested, the victimized.  Then all of a sudden his miscalculation is supposed to be my responsibility.  Where was Amadou when Deyda was murdered?  When Chief Manneh dissapeared? How about when Fatou Jaw Manneh was arrested and ran through a rouse?  Where was Jariatou?  Then all of a sudden, the Cunning Professor calculated wrong and it is supposed to be my business.  No, Mbawulenkeh!  I want to see Amadou's Comrade in arms to lead and I will support them.  Thus far I only see two people.  To Amadou's inner cabal, please do not come here to tell me how I should respond to your situation and to not mentioned anything about Amadou's ugly past.  If any believed that Amadou was fighting for them, then all I can say is the joke is on you.  We need to stop the hypocrisy.  Joe's interest was never factored in anything the Professor calculated.  Now, if Ams is your hero, I say this fight is rightfully yours.  I know, who asked for my input when this is none of my business.

Joe

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 01:34:03 +0100
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Subject: Re: [>-<] RE: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested

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From: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] Subject: [>-<] RE: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:23:17 +0000   Suntou   Ever the rascal, I'm not surprised you asked me such a pointed question on this clearly developing saga of Dr Amadou Scattred Janneh.   You are probably wondering why the lack of traction on the Post, and L, over what, under other circumstances, is likely to generate a lot of interest. You are right that Dr Janneh and myself both hailed from Gunjur. Indeed we commenced high school at Saint Augustine's the same year. Our paths also crossed at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville,  between 1993 and 1995, Dr Janneh as Adjunct Lecturer in the political science department, and myself as a JD student at the college of law. At the entrance of the student cafeteria one day, Dr Janneh and I had a poignant conversation on how to react to the new political masters of The Gambia. On public questions, I have a pretty good understanding of Dr Janneh and his world view.   As of now, I contend myself with watching the situation and attempting to understand where this matter is going. Is it a political matter, or is it an economic transaction? There are rumours Dr Janneh's plight is rooted in his membership of the newly formed, if secretive, Coalition for Change in The Gambia. If indeed this is accurate, some sympathy is in order. However, considering Dr Janneh's current interests in their totality, the CCG angle appears not to be particularly persuasive. I have no hesitation in contending that if his difficulties are rooted in membership of that organisation, the Professor would have no choice but to release him, and in the process further diminish the standing of his government with the democratic and human rights community, local, and international.   Although there is some possibility of illegal conduct by the government in the mere act of arresting Dr Janneh, the threshold of irrefutable illegality is 72 hours of detention after arrest  without charge. In this particular case, I would wait for the expiry of 72 hours   We must also remember that calling for unconditional release of a detainee is, arguably, justified only when the alleged offence is rooted in political considerations, and when the arrested person has no antecedents that suggest human rights issues are trivial and must therefore play second fiddle to what such apologists refer to as "development". If we routinely demand the unconditional release of every arrested person, we run the risk of placing the likes of former IGP Jesus BADJIE, the killers of the April 10-11 victims, and others who clearly flourish in illegal climates, in the same category as Deyda Hydara, the GPU-6, and those like our friend Bailo who left a good life in The Gambia for the uncertainty of exile. We must not devalue the sacrifices of those whose lives were blighted by standing up for a Gambia anchored in laws, institutions, and democratic accountability.   Below I leave you with two Dr Janneh writeups dating to his L days, one of which was a permanent goodbye to that community and the struggle for decency it embodies.         LJDarbo            On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:59:37 -0400 "Dr. Amadou S. Janneh" wrote: > Folks, > > I need to inform you that I have decided to > join the APRC -- a party I had > been very critical of, if not hostile towards. > It is now my conviction that > the party is dedicated to improving the lives > of Gambians and that I can > contribute something towards achieving its > goals. > > The main catalyst for my decision has been the > tone set by President Jammeh in > his inaugural speech following the 2001 > Presidential elections.  I believe > elements outlined in his address created > opportunities for a political and > social climate that is conducive to stability, > tolerance, and reconciliation. > Reaching out to political foes and extending > amnesty to exiles, as President > Jammeh did, were acts of political magnanimity > and maturity that I found > attractive. > > Also taken into consideration is the regime's > delivery of public goods.  Of > particular significance to me in this context > are the development of the Kombo > Coastal road network and the establishment of > the University of the Gambia. > > No system or organization is perfect, but > hopefully we can work towards that > objective through the collective will. > > Amadou SJ > > "Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, > sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act > upon...must inevitably come to pass" (J. > Meyers). > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface > at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > To contact the List Management, please send an Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:49:35 -0500    Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing  list   [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]     Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing > list > > <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> > > > From: Ahmad Scattred <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> > > > Subject: Hiring & Firing: What's new? > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > > Gambia-l: > > > All it takes to get fired in The Gambia is to receive > any kind of > commendation from folks who are critical of the APRC. > It's part of Jammeh's > game--musical chairs, the political version. > > > In case you decide to work for the APRC with the noble > objective of changing > things for the better, here are things that may get > you fired: > > > 1. Adherence to the Rule of Law > 2. Commendation from Critics of the Regime > 3. Name Recognition or Perceived Popularity > 4. Uttering Unfavorable Statements (to Yahya) > 5. Demonstrating Independence > 6. Reluctance / Refusal to become a Praise Singer > 7. Appearing in Yahya's dreams/nightmares > 8. Good luck > 9. Cutting Strings Loose(Puppet) > 10. Flip of a dalasi coin by Yahya > > > Why are we surprised by the firings? > > > Amadou Scattred Janneh                                                                                                             --- On Thu, 9/6/11, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [>-<] RE: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested To: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask], "The Gambia and related-issues mailing list" <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> Date: Thursday, 9 June, 2011, 11:44 It is crude to see Gambians been arrested on unclear grounds. Mr Janneh is a private businessman, the state should follow the proper procols of granting bail to individuals, allowing them access to a lawyer and explaining the reasons for the arrests. However, we all know Yahya Jammeh, his intention as always is to cast fear in the hearts of private Gambians, thereby he can continue his divide and rule, wastage and monstrous governance. Regretably, brother Janneh made a mistake by working for him in the past. Yahya never give a post to any Gambian with the aim of moving the Gambia ahead. An intelligent brother like Amadou now appreciates that. We hope his rights are respected and he is free to go about his business. I am wondering, what is the take of our prominent Gunjure legal expert LJD on the subject of the arrest of Amadou Janneh and Chief Ajey Janneh. With the rumour meal going around that, Ajey is been undermine to take the Cheiftiancy away from him, paving the way for another political coup in conquering Gunjure for the forrth coming elections, LJD's analysis will be relevant to many observers. The NIA should grow up now and realise that, assisting a despot for the sake of national security is no exemption from being an accomplish to human rights violations. They have over 17 years been the key ingredient in inflicting harm on Gambians, both physically and mentally. They sold their souls to Yahya by committing crimes on his behalf, this means he is better than many of them. Suntou On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Jariatou G <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote: Guys, pls discard the previous posting cos of some mis-spells, I haven't prove read it.   Fellows, May I join all Gambians home and abroad in calling for the urgent and unconditional release of both Chif Ajey Janneh and Dr Amadou Scattred Janneh. But I must as well ask the respectable sundries of Gunjur, which one will they celebrate, a huge sum to build a mosque or the freedom of their citizens? If Yahya Jammeh loves you as he falsely pretend he did why would he arrest and detained two prominent people from your community in such a short space? Please remember the mosque/mosques the monster is building in your community is going to be used by the same people he is terrorising. Now, how can you worship in an edifice of trepidation and anxiety? Worship is meant to be performed in a total and complete tranquilly and not otherwise. I bet you rather have your old mosque and worship in peace than be in the unfortunate situation you are in today. Free All Political detainees and prisoners, NOW. Down fall with dictatorship wherever it surfaces.  Jariatou G From: Jariatou G <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 0:48:18 Subject: Re: [>-<] RE: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested Fellow, May I join all Gambians home and abroad in calling for the urgent and unconditional realise of both Chief Ajey Janneh and Dr Amadou Scattred Janneh. But I must as well ask the respectable sundries of Gunjur, which one will they celebrate, a huge sum to build a mosque or the freedom of their citizens? If Yahya Jammeh loves you as he falsely pretend he did why would he arrest and detained two prominent people from your community in such a short space? Please remember the mosque/mosques the monster is building in your community is going to be used by the same people he is terrorising. Now, how can you worship in an edifice of trepidation and anxiety? Worship is meant to be performed in a total and complete tranquilly and not otherwise. I bet you rather have your old mosque and worship in peace than be in the unfortunate satiation you are in today. Free All Political detainees and prisoners now.   Jariatou G From: Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> To: a Gambia-L <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]>; MightyPost <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wed, 8 June, 2011 18:21:34 Subject: [>-<] RE: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested Folks, It is beyond clarity that we are dealing with a paranoid regime. I join the many of you to condemn in the strongest terms the Arrest of Dr. Amadou S. Janneh and ask for his unconditional release. For now, not a lot of details are forthcoming about his arrest.  The fact remains hardly any changes with this notorious regime of Yaya Jammeh. The tyrannical administration does not have any respect for its citizens. We are honestly tired of this way (combined fetishes, complexity, arbitrary arrest, killing and maiming) and I pray that Almighty God intervene quickly to save all of us and our families from the shackles of the monster and his accomplices. When you sit to think, the answer is not far-fetched that many people has been victimized by this regime, ranging from the most ordinary to any other class of humanity. The question is not whether all these people are wrong, but rather whether the administration is right.   Thanks for sharing Sankanu!   Free Amadou S. Janneh now! Yero. There is no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger. Fear and Worship only Allah alone!   > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:28:02 +0200 > From: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] > Subject: Urgent Solidarity Action Need: Scattred Janneh Arrested > To: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] > > Dear Gambia-Lers, > > As you can read from the Authoritative Maafanta.com, Dr. Ahmed Scattred Janneh of Gunjur is arrested and his location is unknown. > > Now this is time for action. I call on the Human Rights Activist among the Listserve to activate their networks in and out of the Gambia to get the man released before he is tortured to death. > > Dear Brothers and Sisters of the Responsible Online and Offline Gambian Media Outlets, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, The Gambia Coalition For Human Rights, UK (GCHR UK), Human Rights For All (HUMRA), Save The Gambia Democracy Project (STGDP), the Political Parties,Gambian Movement for Democracy and Development (GMDD), Global Democracy Project and all other civil society organizations, I cannot list here for time and space reasons, it is TIME FOR SOLIDARITY ACTION to get the man released/freed. > > Whatever happens to Dr. Ahmend Scratted Janneh can happen to you, me, your or loved one who finds him or self within jurisdiction of The Gambia. > > Please act. Pass on the message to any human and political rights activist in your respective network. > > > http://www.maafanta.com/ > > Prince Bubacarr Sankanu > CONCERNED COMPATRIOT > > -- > Prince Bubacarr Sankanu > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface > at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ -- www.suntoumana.blogspot.com -- "Be the change you want to see in the World"

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