On May 8, 2011 9:53 AM, "suntou touray" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [>-<] Haruna, My Letter to Pa Nderry. I doubt he will publish
> it
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> Oceanic
> That is the spirit. Although I disagree with all you said about Darboe, it
> is in the interest of free speech you say so. To those who know Darboe, he
> is the complete opposite of all that you stated. However, live is about
> deferring views and I encourage you to bring it forward anytime.
> Your friend Pa Nderry again went on to accuse me of serious statements. I
> hope he can back himself up. I am not the type to be coward by bitter and
> vengeful editor ike him, who never fail to use his paper against Gambians.
> The VISA scam came to mind. Someone who gain his citizenship through suspect
> means is now the hero of the United States Government. I am not scared
> neither moved by your cowardly and hateful accusation Pa Nderry. I have
> nothing to hide, this is why, whether you get personal or not is the same to
> me.
> You want the British government to investigate me? Don't you know, I am a
> regular visitor to the House of Commons, don't you know, I have done all
> sorts of checks to be able work in Millbank Towers, Hansons, The Adelphi,
> Morgan Stanley etc...
> Get your hateful priorities right young man. Grow up and stop using your
> Radio and paper for vengeful purposes. I am ready for all your scum...The
> only disappointment again is, you used Seedy Ceesay to have a so-called
> interview on me. So sad to see you stooping so low. Shame on you. I never
> knew, disagreeing with your psychopathic arrogance will put you on edge to
> commit serious lies and libelous crimes.
> Suntou
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Oceanic Lad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Suntou,
>> I dont and have never known you,but I respect you and sincerely
>> believe that you the future of UDP post Darbo.
>> However,I believe that Dabo is a spoiler and is doing more harm to the
>> UDP than anyone else.He is hijacking this great and vibrant party to
>> his interest.Trust me when I look behind Darbo;I see
>> determined,fearless and dedicated militants and party bigwigs.
>> When I stood at the corner of piccadilly junction in the fall of
>> 2001,I was amazed to see the caravan of people accompanying Darbo back
>> to Banjul that late night;Nobody would think Jammeh would win that
>> group.Guess what,the next day rumor went around that soldiers and the
>> green boys would kill all the opposition members if Jammeh loses.So,on
>> election day without hearing from all his agents,Darbo called and
>> conceded defeat and accepted to be the son of Jammeh on the Radio and
>> television.This is my point and many others.You should stop helping
>> Darbo to fight a lose battle.The UDP is larger than Darbo.Have a great
>> sunday.
>> On Sunday, May 8, 2011, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Oceanic
>> > The substance of the argument in the letter is greater than Darboe and
>> myself. I have responded and debated with you on UDP issues and Darboe as
>> the party leader. You have every right as a Gambian to criticise Ousainou
>> Darboe and to make whatever statements you deem fit. Such is your right,
>> however, what is our right also is to respond to claims made against him and
>> the party. And I believe you will agree that as the bedrock of plural
>> democracy.
>> >
>> > I never appeared on the Freedom Radio to discuss about Alhagie Mustapha
>> Faye. In fact, the program host tried several times to have us on the radio
>> (Myself and SS Daffeh) however, we task our colleague Bamba Mass to engage
>> him and his panel. Seedy Ceesay requested that, he wanted us to discus
>> something, this was not specified and for that one time, I agreed. The panel
>> which constitute (Abdoulie Jobe, Sarjo Bayang, James) were going to be in
>> attendance. My main focal point is not a side issue, but the way to convince
>> the opposition leaders to talk. I am not interested remotely in discussing
>> anything on any radio if that is not the main subject, because chating about
>> anything else is of less merit.
>> >
>> > I finished playing football at 7PM British time, as soon as I arrive home
>> on Sunday afternoon, I was called to say the program will commence in
>> 15minutes. I rushed to get ready.
>> > It was when I join the conference call, I was told what will be discuss.
>> I didn't even know who is on the program then, because it was later
>> suggested, even without the panel Mr Ceesay will conduct a program. Five
>> minutes into our pre-recorded discussion, I heard the Host Mr Seedy Ceesay
>> and Mr Jobe trying to reach Mr Alhagie Faye. I was a bit taken aback,
>> because i was not told he was going to be on the program. However, I obliged
>> when Seedy said, "we will discuss his allegations against Ousainou". I am in
>> all honesty not a keen listener of Freedom Radio. Therefore, I was prompted
>> to the comments of Mr Faye.
>> >
>> > So, you see, we at the UDP U.K never requested to discuss anything with
>> Alhagie Mustapha Faye. I wasn't even aware that, brother Demba Dem was on
>> the program until, he was greeted by the host.
>> >
>> > However, regardless of all that, what Mr Pa Nderry did after our program
>> was to do his own post interview with Alhagie Faye, making it as if we
>> forced him to attend Mr Ceesay's Jamano show to get even with him. This is
>> where his dishonesty and irrational attitude came to foe.
>> >
>> > He lied to his listeners by falsely making it out that, we don't want Mr
>> Faye to speak his mind and that, we went to use his radio to stop others
>> from speaking up. This is the gist of the matter. The vile that he poured
>> out later is more than baffling.
>> >
>> >
>> > Our program is regularly interrupted because Mr Faye clarify himself and
>> said certain things that Mr Nderry was angry about.
>> > Pa Nderry belittled Seedy Ceesay spectacularly. He showed his pathetic
>> vengeful side to all. In fact, Pa Nderry's cry of fair and balance is what
>> my letter is about.
>> > Oceanic, you can rain down attack upon attack at Ousainou any time. If I
>> or other UDP members feel oblige to respond we will. That is what I stated
>> to him.
>> > As for your credibility, I once made it clear to you that, when you put a
>> name to your ID, I will engage you more constructively. Till then, stay
>> bless.
>> > Suntou
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Oceanic Lad <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by Oceanic Lad <
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>> >
>> >
>> > Suntou,
>> > Ousainou does not own the UDP and he should be very mindful of acting
>> > like that.Then there would be no reason to oppose Jammeh.
>> > I think the freedom media services is talking for me and the silent
>> > majority of Gambians.Lawyer Darbo should retire now as he has passed
>> > the test of time.He has been tested three times and woefully failed in
>> > all of them.
>> > I listened over and over to all this programs you and karamba etc are
>> > complaining and I see no connections to the issues discussed and your
>> > complains.only the truth were told,maybe a bitter truth to the UDP
>> > fiefdom.
>> > As usual even In elections,when you lose,you resort to tribalism and
>> > character assassination.This FanaFana prince is blessed by God and no
>> > human can do anything to him.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, May 6, 2011, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> Thursday, 5 May 2011
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Pa Nderry Need to Learn Radio Manners
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Pa, it seems that, your understanding of democratic dispensation and
>> free exchange of views is bias when it comes to UDP supporters. I hear you
>> mention my name and claimed that, we don't want anyone to attack Ousainou
>> Darboe. Attacking UDP Mandingo members is counterproductive.
>> >>
>> >> You are wrong and the assertions are unfounded. You have lived in
>> America for 8 years and in that duration, you would have seen Senators,
>> Congressmen and women, The President responding to claims against their
>> personality. And by extension, his press secretary, key loyal supporters and
>> pundits defending them as well questioning them slogging it out.
>> >> That is the live blood of free exchange of views. If a man speaks
>> against another, why should he fear a response?
>> >>
>> >> Mr Ousainou is a politician as well as Barrister. He cannot accommodate
>> all the invitations of private Gambians. It is only for that spirit that,
>> some us as UDP members respond to claims and allegations.
>> >> The allegation of your Guest, Alhagie Faye was made in a public forum, a
>> Radio broadcast. Similar sentiment was uttered against OJ, he is is U.K and
>> was contacted instantly by Seedy Ceesay to rebuff the lies. Why didn't you
>> do the same when Mr Faye made the insinuations?
>> >> A serious broadcaster never take lightly statements of his guest, from
>> all main stream American talk show host to the ones in Europe. If you want
>> to emulate such personalities, then try to be balance and cordial with your
>> views and guest.
>> >> I have no problem even if you mention my name and make claims against
>> me. I can defend myself instantly. I know you will not give me the air mile
>> to correct the claims, however, I can use other means and avenue to remedy
>> the situations.
>> >>
>> >> On the basis of Tribalism on our part, Pa are you serious at all about
>> the crimes in the Gambia? If you feel that tribalism is when UDP supporters
>> question claims on the media, then you need a serious reflection on the
>> subject.
>> >> Tribalist never want to be confronted. Your behaviour smells of such.
>> Why can't you have ALhagie Mustapha and any UDP supporters debate at the
>> same time. This is what Seedy Ceesay did. And your guest Mr Faye, refute his
>> earlier statements himself.
>> >> He said, he never said Darboe is a Tribalist and on the issue of
>> Jammeh's bribes, he said that was all speculations. Yet when we came to talk
>> as Gambians, you start screaming and making fuss over that. Who is the
>> Tribalist now Pa Nderry?
>> >> Your personal attack on Ousainou is fine, however, remember, we have the
>> rights just like you to say you are using a bigoted mirror to analyse
>> Ousainou.
>> >> Why must Ousainou step aside to proof to you that, He is not a Tribalist
>> or power hungry? Why should he hand over to Hamat Bah or some Wollof to
>> proof to Pa Nderry that, he is not tribalist or the UDP is not Tribalist?
>> >> DO you regularly listen to yourself?
>> >> You should use sober responsible journalism to carry your message.
>> Making false accusations against me or UDP supporters will not take you
>> anywhere. Your free speech is recognised by us, however, do you recognise
>> our free speech?
>> >> I challenge you to have all sides of the Radio debates on together if
>> you are seriously interested in Uniting Gambians. How can you be attacking
>> Mandinka UDP members and claim that you are not a Tribalist? All we want is
>> neutrality from all those claiming to be journalist. Be fair, invite Alhagie
>> Mustapha day, night and evening, however, to be fair to the other sides,
>> invite members from the sides he will talk about the opportunity to respond.
>> That is what constructive free speech is all about.
>> >> You cannot have people who will cowardly make statements, and pretend
>> that, responding to them infringe on their rights. Why do you think it is
>> you a Wollof demanding that, Ousainou a Mandinka give his place up for
>> people all non-Mandinkas signify Pa Nderry? It expose the
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