The rebel of too many causes!! Brother Saiks, you're so much like my friend Boubacar. He said the same thing to me last month. Then when I told him Bedie formed a political alliance with Gbagbo, he started to go after Bedie too. He said Bedie was scared of Ouattara because of their prior history. He ended up offering the "neutral" president of the national Assembly who is from the north but is a Gbagbo man. Then he went round and round to say that man was afraid to contest the elections. And to drive a stake through his reasoning, I asked him how he knew that man was neutral. He called me this past Valentine's to offer me kolanuts. I wouldn't have it. So if you're thinking about Swedish meatballs this July 4th, don't even think about it.

You need to forget about this IMF business. What nation does not have problems with IMF? Don't blame Ouattara for IMF's structural problems. Also if you say all the players have their self-interests, which third force are you waiting for? If Gbagbo had won the elections, would you still be waiting for this third force???

Saiks, how old are you. You're confusing me to death. And I'm not red to go yet.

Haruna.

-----Original Message-----
From: samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: Ivory Coast: To kick Gbagbo out, the people and army must mobilize.

Ron,
The last time i checked there is heavy fighting going on between the government forces and the rebels in the North (The new force), i have a feeling that whiles the world is looking North, Gbagbo is trying to finish the Northern rebel once and for all, it might be a difficult mission.
What I  am trying to say is that the Ivorian crisis as you very well know is more complicated than certain media houses will want us to believe and let face it, it is not certain that Ouattara won this election. The thing is those who were involved have their agenda and this is the very reason for the confusion, unlike you, i have been digging in the argument of both sides and there are so many things very unclear. Remember, Babayoko, will surely want Ouattara to become the president of IV and the same thing goes for the leader of the constitutional committee, he will also want Gbagbo to become the president of the country, these are not neutral forces and as you rightly said this country has been in crisis for such a long time and I add neutrality can never be something for granted in such a situation. The UN,US and France have their interest in this crisis and they have equally been following and contributing to it.
You know from the start, i have no interest in this Ouattara man, I told you he was heading that ministerial committee that was forcing the IMF/world bank conditionality on the country (more of a finance minister like),so powerful he was in that country and in fact ruled the country whiles the old man was dying, he was edge out after a power struggle in the party, he is not new and have been using all possible means for a long time now to be come the president of that country.
Now Ron, tell me, if a country divided by civil war into two, with standing armies on both sides can organise an effective election. As so much we desire and cherish   free and fair elections we should not allow those who mock such a honorable exercise to fool us into their political maneuvers.
No Ron, I am not calling for a mass uprising against Gbagbo for Ouattara to take over, I am looking for the third force to give all my support.
 
For Freedom
Saiks
 

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:15:43 -0500
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There goes the rebel with too many causes. I hear you brother Saiks. I tend to believe that the absence of a mass revolution does not signify the paucity of disdain.

Ivory Coast has been in political vortex for a decade now, punctuated by an invasion from France. Revolutions are a climactic and transformational event and the loss of life and other dis-orientations that come with such epochal events in a nation's life is not valuable cost TO CERTIFY universal suffrage. Free, fair, and transparent Elections are a stop-gap to Mass Revolutions. If we didn't have such elections, there'd be Mass Revolutions in every nation, every 5 years. Ninko Maa, Nmaafo Maa-bainahumaa. Dictators usurp good elections at their own perils. In fact Free, fair, and transparent elections ought to be dictators' best friends. Wait a minute, why am I going through this rigamarole?? Brother Saiks I just read your notes again to keep my focus and it seems you're with Brother Tiken and myself in encouraging Ivorians to come out in their good number and place Gbagbo under citizens' arrest???

Lemme know lemme know.

Haruna. I love you men.

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Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 5:41 am
Subject: Re: Ivory Coast: To kick Gbagbo out, the people and army must mobilize.

Ron,
this is the problem,if you rememeber i told you that it is not the majority of Ivorians who are for Ouattara as others  will want us to believe and this is the reason why we  still have this problem on our door steps.The north African revolutions are a very good example of the  popular revolutionary slogan,"No force on earth can stop the will of the People".In 2002 when the military junta lost the elections in Ivory Coast and wanted to hold on power,the Ivorian masses defy the powers and brutality of the military junta, toppled the government and hand over presidential powers to Gbagbo.Today we know that political power was handed over to a dictator but it was the will of the Ivorian masses.The day they want  him out,we will not be waiting for France,Ecowas or the US to do it,peoples power is more capable of doing it better.
 Just enjoy North Africa,as spontainity battle dictatorship,I am reaching for my "Wretch of the Earth".
 
For Freedom
Saiks

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:30:59 -0500
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Subject: Ivory Coast: To kick Gbagbo out, the people and army must mobilize.
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Here's Tiken Jah Fakoly. Courtesy: Les Echos newspaper.
 
Autres Actus
Pour chasser Gbagbo : Tiken Jah appelle les Ivoiriens au soulèvement

Pessimiste sur l’issue de la médiation du panel des cinq chefs d’Etat, l’artiste Tiken Jah Fakoly, exhorte les Ivoiriens à mener des actions populaires et à descendre dans les rues pour chasser l’ancien président Laurent Gbagbo qui s’accroche au pouvoir. Il avertit qu’en cas d’échec de l’UA contre Gbagbo, il va appeler au boycott de l’organisation panafricaine.
C’est ce qu’on appelle une drôle de coïncidence. Le 17 février, depuis Dakar, où il se trouvait Guillaume Soro, Premier ministre d’Alassane Ouattara, avait appelé les Ivoiriens à "faire la révolution" comme en Egypte et en Tunisie et à chasser du pouvoir l’ancien président ivoirien Laurent Gbagbo qui s’y accroche.
Le même jour l’artiste Tiken Jah Fakoly, qui a pris position depuis la proclamation des résultats, a, à son tour, appelé le peuple de Côte d’Ivoire à se donner la main "comme un seul homme" à travers un soulèvement populaire pour déloger le "groupuscule de personnes avec des miliciens" du pouvoir.
Ce n’était pas seulement aux journalistes maliens que Tiken s’adressait au cours d’une conférence de presse, tenue chez lui, mais également aux Ivoiriens. Puisque la conférence était retransmise en directe sur une radio privée de la capitale économique ivoirienne, au grand bonheur d’Abidjanais.
Celui qui, avec Alpha Blondy pense que Laurent Gbagbo a perdu l’élection présidentielle, a indiqué que les Ivoiriens doivent prendre leur destin en main et amener une "autre" Côte d’Ivoire en se débarrassant des "ordures". "Le soulèvement populaire" est, à ses dires, la solution appropriée.
L’orateur a salué le courage des résidents du quartier d’Abobo (Abidjan) qui, à l’en croire, sont en train de se battre et défendre la cause de la majorité des Ivoiriens. Il a souhaité que leur exemple soit suivi et soit le déclic de la révolution populaire. Conscient que ces genres d’actions ne vont pas sans sacrifices, l’artiste a invité les Ivoiriens à se mobiliser partout ils se trouvent et à ne pas se décourager pour que vivent la vérité et la justice. "Il ne peut pas y avoir de paix sans justice", a tranché Moussa Doumbia.
La rue décisive
Il a dénoncé l’injustice caractérisée de Laurent, qui autorise ses partisans à se réunir sans entrave à Yopougon, mais fait la chasse à ceux d’Alassane Ouattara à Abobo, Koumassi ou Treichville. Pronostiquant sur la médiation du panel des chefs d’Etats, l’auteur de "Mangercratie", s’est dit pessimiste sur la démarche entreprise par le nouveau président de l’UA qui, après 23 ans de pouvoir, "ne peut rien décider de concret".
Toutefois, il a souhaité que les cinq chefs d’Etat (Ndlr : ils devaient séjourner à Abidjan hier lundi) surprennent en tenant un langage de fermeté à l’égard de Gbagbo Laurent. Sans quoi, "ce qui se passe en Côte d’Ivoire, d’autres présidents vont l’imiter". "C’est un autre modèle de coup d’Etat électoral qui s’instaure, si Gbagbo parvenait à se maintenir".
Il n’a pas écarté l’hypothèse d’appeler la jeunesse africaine à boycotter l’Union africaine (UA) en cas d’échec à faire partir Gbagbo. "Nous allons mener une campagne pour dire non à toutes les actions de l’UA et exiger sa dissolution", a menacé Tiken. Le problème en Côte d’Ivoire, a-t-il indiqué, va au-delà des frontières et presque tous les foyers de la sous-région ont subi ses conséquences.
Farouchement contre l’intervention militaire qui va faire des centaines de tués innocents, M. Fakoly, pense qu’elle va engendrer d’autres tués par les milices de Gbagbo. Cependant, il salut les sanctions économiques. "Si, elles auront un effet immédiat", car, dira-t-il, le peuple de Côte d’Ivoire a faim.
Il faut rappeler qu’après une première nuit de couvre-feu entre vendredi et samedi, plusieurs quartiers d’Abidjan ont renoué le 19 février avec la violence. Les partisans d’ADO ont été empêchés de manifester par des tirs de Kalachnikov et de gaz lacrymogènes des FDS. Conséquence : les jeunes militants du RHDP ont exprimé leur colère en érigeant des barricades, en enflammant des pneus et à Kumasi un camion a été incendié. Plusieurs personnes tuées
Les Échos du 23 Février 2011.
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