I am very proud of you Yanks for reasoning with Nderry in the quiet after the storm. I was a bit disappointed in Nderry even though I understood he was defending Falai because of their common tribal affinity and because Falai is a regular commentator on Freedomnewsradio. I do not fault Nderry for that support of Falai based on those notions. However, I was expecting Ndokeh to consider that even though Falai is a regular contributor, I am also a regular listener. If, as a proprietor of a journal or radio, you insense some of your listening audience by your regard for a regular commentator, you are, unawares, dwindling the need for the commentator. As far as the tribal affinity goes, that's a dime a dozen. I will however share with Ndokeh, as a rider to your amicus Yanks, that even if Ndokeh thinks Mandingos are tribalist, he Ndokeh is the least situated to be tribalist as counterpoise to any Mandingo tribalism, real or imagined, simply because he is a proprietor of a news and entertainment medium and he professes to desire circulation and readership. Ndokeh must understand that he occupies a special place in the Gambian community. It should be unfortunate to tear down what he spent several years and many sweaty nights to build. I have known him to be passionate and to jealously guard his sacrosanct right to free speech. I will encourage Nderry to consider the delicate balancing act of those rights with his rights as a sole proprietor of a news and entertainment outlet. Courts wrestle with this balancing act all the time. It is because they are the penultimate reserve of communion and harmony for the world's peoples. Falai knows exactly what he did and he knows he is in the wrong. It is now very difficult to carry out surreptitious and proxy wars. The Mandingos and the Fulas are like the chicken and egg story. I don't believe one can be useful without the other. Let us focus on the crimes of persons and not their tribal, religious, or professional affinities. Political parties belong to their founders and members. The rest of us can either choose to vote for them or not vote for them. Our vote is not currency for ownership shares in any party. So please dispense with the notion: UDP belongs to all Gambians, PDOIS belongs to all Gambians, NRP belongs to all Gambians, GPDP belongs to all Gambians, GMC belongs to all Gambians, or PPP belongs to all Gambians. THEY DON'T. All of these parties would love to earn all our votes but they know who owns their parties. And why would anyone want to own a political party???????????????????????????? My vote is far more valuable than an ownership stake in a political party. When I want an ownership interest in any political party, I know how to purchase that ownership....By registration, blood, sweat, tears, and the attendant joys, just like the vrai owners of the parties expend. I remembered Ndokeh shared a well-worn quote...Hamga Lui hew Gambia, Hanga lui hew Gambia, ALhaji doggu mala deh, wai Hanga lui hew Gambia, Monkey eat, baboon chop, wow monkey work baboon chop. I almost died laughing. I want Ndokeh to reflect on this his quote. I also remind him that it was one of the quotes Yahya shared in his first few days as Junta leader when there was a tussle as to who would be leader of the spoils of the coup. In the shallow films of that quote lie shares of ownership. I am long. Thank you Yanks for affording me this opportunity to confer with my Ndokeh. I understand he may have been pleased with me lately. I was also at pains to chide him directly hoping he would reflect. I am reminded of Brutus' soliloquy in the small hours of the morn ahead of Caesar's assassination. Haruna. In a message dated 1/27/2011 6:29:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Pa You are more than welcome to join the UDP, whenever you wish. I was contacted about your handling of the falaye debacle with the UDP. You were mad with the UDP's decision to disown Falaye. It must have come as a shock, therefore your reaction could be understood. However, what you failed to understand was how shocked and mad the UDP were to hear Uncle Falaye calling for Darboe's head! I heard you arguing that it was uncle Falaye's right to freedom of expression. Just as the UDP argues that same basic tenet of human right. That it is their right to count anyone as part of their party. To put it simply, if Yahya Jammeh declares his defection to UDP tomorrow, he might not be accepted; so will any one else who wants to make public statement about of party's leadership in a manner that undermines that leadership itself. We can live with uncle Falaye being a member of the PDOIS and criticise our leadership than to have him from within. In Britain the Labour party kicked out George Galloway and Claire Short from their party or forced them to resign because they were critical of Blair, the leader of the party at the time. Britain is a democratic nation and it parties engage in a democratic process. But each party has parliamentary whips to clamp down on rebels. Falaye cannot be a rebel from within; he is right in his believe that he has freedom to question the UDP leadership, but he was wrong to thinking that the party will accept his challenge. He is indeed a free man just like the rest of the members of the UDP party. Whoever does not like the leadership of Darboe, has the freedom to leave the party. However a person cannot claim to be a member of the UDP but does not accept its leader. I would therefore encourage you, Pa to maintain the impartiality of freedomnewspaper, in order you may not become GRTS against the UDP. Remember every day the GRTS is telling Gambians how bad the UDP is, yet we are a force in the Gambia. The UDP is not scared of any media house. We have withstood GRTS and Daily Observer and Foroyaaa in the Gambia!!!!!! Nemesis Yanks ____________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:37:07 +0000 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? To: [log in to unmask] Yanks: Very sober reflections here, but why associating me with the PDOIS? I'm not affiliated with any party in The Gambia. But I must hasten to add that: If I were to support any party, I rather join the UDP because of the party's policies. Then, I will lobby your support including Ustas Suntou to replace Ousainou. On a more serious note: I appreciate all the sentiments expressed by different forum members on this particular thread. We are bound to agree, and disagree, but lest we forget that civility facilitates fruitful debate. Thanks. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ____________________________________ From: Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:09:44 +0000 To: <[log in to unmask]> ReplyTo: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? Suntu Pa Nderry is currently on the payroll of PDOIS; just ignore him. I had a lot of calls regarding the same. I find uncle Falaye and Pa Nderry's call for Darboe to resign a bit interesting. I do not think they understand the UDP; as its party loyalists understands it. Calling Ousainou to resign without asking who will replace him will only be a detriment to the UDP, as a party. If anyone wants Ousainou to leave the UDP leadership; they must tell us who will replace him and whether that person will agree replace him. The UDP is an open democracy, if Pa Nderry and Falaye want to replace Darboe; they don't need to start such sinister propaganda on freedom, they can do so by putting their interest to party and compete with Darboe to the position. However, to ask for Darboe to resign without will lead for the destruction of the UDP; which i think both Nderry and Falaye do not want to see. Furthermore, the claim that Darboe should resign because he had been the leader of the party for too long is not credible. Take example of Abdlie Wadda, Alpha Condeh, and Alhasana Ouatara, they did not resign because they had been leaders of their respective parties in opposition for long. If that was a requirement they would not be presidents of their respective countries. And not forgetting my comrades in the PDOIS leadership, who have been opposition leaders before the birth of the Gambian nation!!!!!!! Yanks ____________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:25:17 +0000 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? To: [log in to unmask] Haruna I have been on record defending the right of the Freedomnews to dig deep into Gambian politics and affairs. However, recent happenings in the freedomnewspaper seems to expose the ugly side of a pundit. He is free to say whatever he deems fits and really, no one has any problem with that. But it seems the lazy, hypocritical accusations have surfaced in his radio. He now start accusing decent Mandingos of Tribalism whilst not doing the same for his other guest. He now brand Yahya Darboe and other UDP U.S members of controlling the UDP. I wonder what he eats before coming on air. Isn't he the same person speaking to Syngle Nyassi about UDP and Gambian politics. No single UDP support group come into effect without the approval of Ebou Manneh and this is evident even with the New UDP Sweden chapter. Whoever is feeding him this malicious lies should serious think before prating. But then the dangers of ethnic co-existence always lingers.. . This is the most absurd nonsense I have heard for a while. Now it appears Mandinkas have to be careful in involving in politics if not, cheap idiots will come at them with stupid nonsense. Let Pa Nderry go CNN and see if his futile statements will mean anything. Why should the mere discussion of differing views brought ethnicity into our politics? I thought that, Pa of all people is beyond this rubbish but alas, .. Pa should remember that, his radio is effective only if it serve the public good. Using it as weapon against those he disagree is bringing back the early days of the Freedom newspaper when he use to attack just anyone. I hope in time, he be restraint enough to sit tightly on the fence, for now let see it as Talk show host let loose. And who is trying to please with the maligning of Mandingo members of UDP? No single member of the the UDP will be hindered with lies against those who wish to play an active role in Gambian politics. If supporting a party of their choice means they are tribalist, well then.. who careless. It is sad to see Pa spending his valuable time talking on irrelevant self-defeating subjects rather than importance matters on Gambian politics. As it happens, those feeding him have benefited more from the UDP than those they are attacking, how ironical. Now Pa said, Fulas are the largest ethnic group in the Gambia. That is fantastic news and by Allah may they increase in number. Another gentleman said, some Mandinkas in Sweden hand his daughter in Marriage without his approval and that means, the Mandinkas always think they are better than others. Now then, open the cans of worm, lets get on with it. Let Pa bring on more Mandinka maligning and relax, if that is what it will take, it is ok. Suntou On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Kemo and Ansu, Falaye's case is one of fraudulent agency. Any speech emanatin from fraudulent agency does not fall under Free speech. Many "journalists" confuse the universal and intrinsic rights to free speech and its underpinnings. Being a "supporter" of a political party is not the same as being a member or an official of the party. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: Ansumana Bojang <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 11:04 am Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? Jallow, This seems to be a simple case of Pa Nderry was exposed for his bias. His subsequent shows have exposed this more. You can see that he is trying to find anyone who he can have come on his show to say anything negative about UDP and Lawyer Darbo. He is always talking from both sides of his mouth contracdicting himself everytime he opens his mouth. Pa needs to take a dose of reality and move on with better things for him and Gambia if he cares about Gambia. I have read the UDP, USA press release and listened to the radio show and all I heard is the USA members trying to tell the audience what the party is up to and defend lies being pedalled against UDP. Don't they have the right to speak their opinions too just like Falaye that Pa Nderry is defending for his right to free expression? Ansu ---- Kemo Jallow said: Listening to Pa Nderry after the defection of Rambo to APRC ,with the issues Pa is talking about trying to be little Ousainou Darbo on his radio. One can say that Pa is working for Jammeh. With his double standard comments Pa is ready to destroy UDP. MY ADVICE TO GAMBIANS AND THE UDP IS TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH PA NDERRY AND HIS FREEDOMNEWSPAPER. Pa has an agenda against the gambian opposition. NADD failed because of some comments mde on the online newspapers specially the freedomnewspaper. Pa said that he is independent and know one can controll him. Then why he want to controlls the UDP by supporting ideas calling for a change in the party he did not support. Anyone who know Darbo personally knows that Darbo is not tribalist. UDP UK and UDP USA please stop discussing certain issues at the freedom radio. Right now we dont need a journalis or a person who is trying to undermine the little efforts of our opposition political partys, who are struggling everyday on the ground. I would be very happy if Pa Nderry can come on the ground and form a political party and challenge Jammeh. Ablie Wadda has been and opposition leader for decades before being a president. 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