From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: UDP rally postponed in consideration of imminent ruling on the Femi Peters Persecution.
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Monday, 14 December, 2009, 17:31

Uncle I have just read the Foroyaa report of the planned UDP meeting in Latri-kunda and will also tell you after my posting on this topic last night I have to spend a lot of time in bed thinking it over and over again. Now I have reached this decision to ask for your pardon and close this topic, The Foroyaa report told me that the UDP did not go to latrikunda to show any act of civil disobedience. They just went to have a meeting. When they were told that their permit was not approved they dispersed. Every party has the right to freedom of assembly. It is definitely not a defeat to be denied one's right. It is an injustice which all of us should denounce and i wish to add my voice to that of all Gambians and non gambians who condemn the injustice being perpetrated against the UDP. It undermines the possibility of having  free and fair elections in the Gambia. Thanks for the compliments on the Montgomery Bus Boycott however, I would have to get to you for more lessons on related subjects and of course the French lessons as well. Your Nephew, Nyang --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UDP rally postponed in consideration of imminent ruling on the Femi Peters Persecution. To: [log in to unmask] Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 11:12 AM Dad, I enjoyed reading you below. I am impressed with your knowledge of the Montgomery bus boycot and PDOIS' defiance of decrees.   I encourage you to leave Suntoumana and other out of this conversation until you speak with Suntoumana or other folk you call trumpeters for whatever cause. Stay with me on this issue and let's not muddy waters already. [-----Original Message----- From: Modou Nyang To: [log in to unmask]ORG Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 12:25 am Subject: Re: UDP rally postponed in consideration of imminent ruling on the Femi Peters Persecution. Uncle Haruna, i do not see any delay in the Peter's case from the state it is the defence who have raised a constitutional matter and went ahead to seek for interpretation at the Supreme Court.] Dad.   Do you think the Femi Peters persecution is a constitutional abrogation Dad? If you do not think it is, do you have a problem with another citizen determining it as such? The matter was taken to the wrong court in the first instance. Correcting that error in judgement took a week. The matter now is at another court. Has been there for another couple of weeks. You will agree with me that if the matter (Your fellow citizen's persecution) had been in the Kanifing courts from the beginning, one week would have been saved. So one week being wasted for improper venue was not the defense's doing I don't suppose do you? And if Femi were not bonded out, he could very well have been sitting in jail for a week. I guess that is no problem for you and PDOIS.   [That is not a delaying tactic instead it serves the defence to prove that the Criminal Code as amended contravenes the 1997 constitution that SUNTOUMANA and some group wants us to believe was meant to approve the AFPRC.] Dad Modou.   I fail to understand your point Dad. Whether Suntoumana wants you to believe something or not, does not preclude your own view of it. It will be helpful if you stick with your own beliefs when you speak with me. So does the IGP's action vis-a-vis Femi Peters contravene the 1997 constitution or not, in Dad's view? [Judging from the facts and the Freedom reportage, it is safe to conclude that the meeting was disrupted and not canceled at will due to the heavy presence of security personnel.] Dad Modou.   So did the "heavy security presence 'DISRUPT' the rally or did an impending escalation by the presence ARMED troups inure circumspect and the decision to postpone the rally? You did read that the security personnel, although unnecessarily armed, assured participants in the meeting that they are there to maintain peace. That doesn't sound to me like a disruption.   [That is what i mean by proper planning, Uncle Haruna. This is what Freedom newspaper wrote: "Sources further told this paper that at the time of the arrival of the security officers, some UDP members were already at the venue for the ground preparations..." This shows that there were people on the ground and has even mentioned names like Solo Sandeng.] Dad Modou.   What does the foregoing tell you dad? That the security personnel disrupted a rally??? Why would considered cancellation not be the proper description? Don't be so edgy and petulant. So your idea of proper planning would have been to go ahead with the rally that can be postponed in the face of fatal belligerence????   [so citing the ongoing Femi Peters case as a reason is just an attempt to save face.] Dad.   You would not understand why an impending constitutional matter will warrant extraordinary restraint by sober citizens Modou. You must not be faulted for the restlessness of youth.   [Didn't they know that the case was ongoing? Yes the did.] Dad Modou.   Indeed the UDP knew the Femi Peters persecution was on-going. It is exactly the reason why they postponed the extant rally. I see you're in a haste (they) to make your point. Relax. You're speaking here with uncle Haruna Dad. [Why a united opposition? The police would dare not stop us from meeting and rallying and here PDOIS is no exception.] Dad Modou.   The question was: "What does a United Opposition have to do with UDP's postponement of her rally". Not whether a united opposition is desirable. You probably wanted to tell me the obvious once again. Fair enough. And whether the police would dare stop a united opposition rally or not is not at issue. And I couldn't rely on your clairvoyance on that score. I generally don't act in reaction to non-actions. It is safe to say that whether or not the police will stop a united opposition rally or not, the United opposition can herself stop her own rally. I am confident you see the wisdom here.   [That's one good thing about Unity.] Dad Modou.   NO. A united opposition is not needed to dare the police. Unity augments circumspects. We unite in the conviction that our fellow citizen's rights and freedom's ought not be aversed. So what is preventing PDOIS to challenge the denial of permits for rally by PDOIS??? What unity are you talking about? You and me becoming one and the same, or you and Haruna protecting each other's rights as fellow citizens????   [And what is Preventing united opposition? Uncle it is some elements in the UDP bulldozing with the view that they have what it requires to tackle Jammeh and his APRC.] Dad Modou.   Why are you averse to that confidence in some elements in the UDP. Dad should you not celebrate such confidence and enjoin it if you can??? What does that have to do with preventing a United Opposition??? I think you have a warped sense of unity Dad if I may say so. Why would you want to be one and the same with someone if you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge his/her human rights singly???? You and PDOIS must review your PURPOSE for seeking unity with your fellow citizens. It is this intolerance that impedes company in your exploits.   [Uncle, it is this mentality that made Darboe to walk away from a United Opposition in 2006. Did you get me now.] Dad Modou.   Yes Dad. I got you for the umpteenth time. Let me try this another way. Let us say that you are right. That it is this mentality that made Darboe to walk away from being bosom bodies with PDOIS. Now what does that say about the prospects of a united opposition??? Exactly nothing. And it does not say anything about whether we can have a united opposition today, tomorrow, next week, or next year. I see it as a personal problem of yours and PDOIS' being extrapolated to a "National" problem. Go drink milk and come back. Sober. And speak with me then.   [Cammon my Uncle, please do not get vexed with your nephew.] Dad Modou.   I very seldom get vexed. This is because most people do not set out to vex me. And if they do, I have quite a number of tools in my arsenal to become happy quickly from vexed states. So not to worry Dad. I'll let you know when you're about to friggin piss me off. And you don't wanna do that.   [I do not like getting into this type of issues] Dad Modou.   What type of issues??? And why not????   [but i only did so due to some folks trumpeting of the new found tactic of the UDP.] Dad Modou.   Why would braggadoccio, if boastful by other, afford you seminal inspiration???????? Are you sure the problem is not with you Dad??? What's it to you if I boast all day long about anything??   [I guess it was planned to look like the Montgomery Bus Boycott gave us Rosa Parks of legendary memory.] Dad Modou.   Did someone tell you that or was it the trumpeters speaking to you again???? Do you know what the Montgomery bus boycot and Rosa Parks were all about????   [But wait a minute. The Montgomery bus boycott like the PDOIS/Foroyaa defiance of Decree No 4, was well planned with full knowledge of the consequences involved. It also has a well thought out plan of action in case the expectant consequences were to occur and as well as a continuity process.] Dad Modou.   So you imagine a scenario, you convince yourself that that is indeed what your fellow citizen conceives of, then you comfort yourself that it is not indeed what your fellow citizen conceives of because the results do not fit into your construct. I hope you don't intend on going through life in this manner Dad.   [So you see what your nephew has learned spending all his childhood at Foroyaa yet he is still a crash high school graduate and not a student of knowledge who knew other peoples parents.] Dad Modou.   I see. Vividly. And its not pretty Dad. Knowing other peoples parents is not a goal I would set for myself in quest of knowledge. Acquaintances only afford us example, not improved conscience. Easy Dad.   Your uncle. And how can I be your uncle if you are my Dad?? Som'n ain't right. haruna. --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UDP rally postponed in consideration of imminent ruling on the Femi Peters Persecution. To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:52 PM Dad, you don't understand very much do you???   What does a united opposition have to do with UDP's decision to postpone her rally? And what is preventing a United opposition?????? At any time????   Do you not think the government is delaying the Femi Peters persecution simply because they knew the UDP to be circumspect and might postpone their rally in deference to judicial respect?????? After all, the UDP postponed her own rally. They determine when to hold their rallies. I think that is a new dawn for Gambians wouldn't you say????   And if you see this as a defeat of UDP's defiance of Yahya's whims and caprices, is that a good thing for Modou Nyang and PDOIS???? And how much hope is there for PDOIS if UDP is defeated in her defiance of unjust regulation????????   What do you or PDOIS know about proper planning???? I don't think the UDP can learn much about planning from you. Do you????????????? Don't kid yourself.   Haruna.   -----Original Message----- From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 8:41 pm Subject: Re: UDP rally postponed in consideration of imminent ruling on the Femi Peters Persecution. Proper planning is very important in everything one does especially with dealing with situations pf this nature. I see this as a sort of a defeat to the UDP's desire to defy the authorities in Banjul hence the cancellation of the meeting. They knew that the Femi Peter's case is on and went on to plan a meeting in apparent continuation of their defiance. Mbolo-moi-doleh had it been a united opposition there was no way the meeting would have been disrupted. Nyang --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: UDP rally postponed in consideration of imminent ruling on the Femi Peters Persecution. To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:08 PM Courtesy: Freedomnewspaper.com Allez!! Haruna.   Breaking News: Gambia: UDP Rally Called Off-Amidst Heavy Security Presence UDP Rally Called Off-Amidst Heavy Security Presence The State Dispatches Four Trucks Of Armed Security Officers Police Chief Omar Jawo Says я╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя┐╜чк╢я┐╜ The Police Is Not An Enemy To The UDP, Or Any Opposition Party.я╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя╜пя╛Вя╜┐я╛Вя╜╜ As UDPя╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя╜вчк╢цекя╜вS Ounda Nyang Receives Assurances From The Armed Security By Staff Reporter James Jammeh, Banjul Despite the postponement of the UDP Serrekunda Central rally, a heavy security presence could be noticed  at the SIDA CLUB Saturday, where armed security offices were bracing up to disperse opposition supporters, the Freedom Newspaper can reveal. The busy streets of the Kairaba Avenue was stormed by the armed security who were out to shoot and kill anybody bent on disturbing the peace. They arrived in the area hours well before the planned meeting, which was later cancelled.  UDP supporters told this paper that one of the reasons behind the postponement of the Saturday rally was due to the ongoing criminal case filed against Femi Peters by the state. UDPя╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя╜вчк╢цекя╜вS  former Presidential candidate, and party leader  Lawyer Darboe has already made an application in regards to the said case-asking the court to transfer the matter to the high court. Darboe argues that the superior court has jurisdiction over Peterя╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя╜вчк╢цекя╜вs case and not the lower court. Party supporters said in view of the pending case, they deemed it necessary  not to indulge into activities that might be considered я╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя┐╜чк╢х┐Цnlawful and unconstitutional.я╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя╜пя╛Вя╜┐я╛Вя╜╜ Sources further told this paper that at the time of the arrival of the security officers, some UDP members were already at the venue for the ground preparations, as they vowed not to accept any more security abuse, or harassment. They say they have the right to hold a political rally, as a political party that is registered in accordance with the laws of the country. Our sources indicated that despite their presence in the area, the security officers did not harass those present  at the venue, but were armed in their gears with guns as well. A UDP supporter told this paper that The Gambia belongs to all, so if any security officer thinks that the members of UDP are scared of them, they are making a big  mistake. The UDP supporter vowed that they would never relent in the pursuance of their civic rights. This paper was reliably informed that police commissioner of operations Omar Jawo together with one Landing Bojang a police superintendent confronted Ounda Nyang,  the area Chairman of the party and assured him that they (the police)  are not an enemy to the UDP, neither other opposition parties in the country. Jawo said they only want to maintain peace, tolerance, order and the general safety of all. Meanwhile, the party officials have confirmed the story saying that the main reason to postpone  the rally was in connection with the court case-pending the outcome of the application made by lawyer Ousainou Darboe at the courts,  who also doubles as the party's Secretary General in the ongoing case of Femi peters, campaign manager. This paper learnt that some of the militants who were present during the arrival of the armed security officers were Solo Sandeng and Lamin Ceesay,  including some youth. The officers according to eye witnesses, came with four trucks full of officers. Two of the trucks was loaded with armed Gambia National Army soldiers, and the other two contained Police Intervention Unit officers. The court is expected to make a ruling on the defenseя╛Г╬┤я╜вя╛Гя╜вчк╢хаЛя╜мя╛Гя╜вчк╢цекя╜вs application on Monday December 14Th 20009 at 1:00Pm. 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