Ma Yero,

You captured the catch 22 that the African military finds itself in. The problem is that they create the catch 22 condition in the first place due to their cluelessness and idiocy. They equate defending the nation with defending order in the nation. The lines then get blurred when they seize governance because of sheer greed. They are not highly cultured or educated so they rely on their uniform and weapons to exact order. ORDER CANNOT BE EXACTED. ORDER IS A BY-PRODUCT of SOBER GOVERNANCE. NO ONE CAN LEGISLATE ORDER. These idiots need to get that through their thick skulls. Reminds me Jow's signature (adapted from MLK Jr.) that peace and justice are not mutually exclusive paradigms.

About our mutual friend JDAM, don't worry too much about him. He's on a campaign against Mali because he thinks Mali is taking taking us away from Gambia matters. Since when does his emergency constitute our urgency???? Ask him that question JC. And see what his response is. Don't let anybody tell you you can't speak Serer, Dogon, Fula, Mandinka, Wollof, Jola, Aku, or Swahili on Ellen. Ellen is as good as dead without Sonrai or Toucouleur. Get a load o' that. Ask him what Dabanani is. And before I forget, there is Dabanani is Mali. That ought to tell JDAM som'n. Like I said, don't worry about JDAM. These people (JDAM and Galleh) like to be pampered. Like they're not pampered enough. I will succeed in persuading them to take a=2 0pilgrimage into Panorama city with me. If DaarManso wills. I've had it with them.

Allow me this opportunity to thank our other mutual friend Nderry for his wise counsel regarding Haruna V. Fofana & VVChee. I was a bit defensive when Nderry advised me on profanity. I thought a bit more about it. I came to the conclusion that even if Nderry is the vrai President of profanity, his recognition of the debilitating affect of profane language in sober discourse is to behold and heed. Therefore Nderry I love you more and I thank you for the advice. Evian, I don't wanna hear it. Go away. Thank you JC. Can you let Nderry (Ndokeh) know I appreciate the advise and to forgive my apparent aversion by it? Thanx in advance. Wonder where Miss Zebulon is? Haruna.

-----Original Message-----
From: Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 10:32 am
Subject: Re: La-Guineans vow to continue demonstrations until Dadis and the CNDD are removed.

Bro Haruna,

I thank you balancing matters of Guineans for us.

I heard (ditto: Pa Musa Jallow) that Dadis can be a Sankara like I positioned here earlier...but to do that, he must go back to the military20and allow politicians precide over the country's destiny. The problems as you can affirm, when such military leaders stay, such demonstrations will take place time and again, and people will get killed and others will be jailed.It will create a panic and scary environment, one very unusual to the common people. This will grow and the plants of discord will grow faster. In their efforts and centers of wishing to rectify the military's wrongs, they will try to justify things by blaming activists and politicians, and they get into deeper shit. Before long, they would have arrived at the el'd' gore (door of no return." All they will do at that time is to defend and justify every wrong action of theirs. They will be scared to leave for the justice that awaits them. I hope Dadis doesn't reach to that stage.

On a note, regarding LJD's submission, a personal friend of mine with such educational background confided a similar stance. I want to position his' was well argued. It is true that our wishes are to have such "rights", but unfortunately there are rules and regulations. It made me a little uncomfortable when you compared him with me, as reference word "better" because I hold you both in high esteem. Regarding his questioning of "Ellen", I thought he meant to draw my attention to something; and that it was not an english word, but its usage should be limited. I truly long since adopted "Ellen" from you and I like the name. In the end, I thank you for your20defense as well.

Your favorite,

yj

There is no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger. Fear and Worship only Allah alone!

Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:49:08 -0400
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Subject: La-Guineans vow to continue demonstrations until Dadis and the CNDD are removed.
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La-GUineans are at the brink. They have suffered for far too long. They've had it. Haruna.

Courtesy: BBC News.

Guinea protests 'will continue'

Opposition leader Sidya Toure: "They just started to shoot people directly"

A leading Guinean opposition leader has said protests will continue in the country to get rid of what he called the "criminal" military regime.

Alpha Conde, head of the Rally of the People of Guinea party, said he would return there to "mobilise the people".

Rights groups say at least 157 people were shot dead by troops20on Monday and that woman have been publically raped.

But the interior ministry said 57 people died in the protests. Officials denied knowledge of sexual assaults.

"We can't fight and then draw back, we fought for change so we can't retreat now," Mr Conde, speaking from New York, told the BBC.

"We want free and democratic elections, but considering what happened yesterday, we now want the government to go and for it to be replaced by a national government that can organise elections."

Mr Conde said the government had been "discredited" by the violence, which he said had been "planned and were directed by the president's own adviser".

Frankly it saddens me immensely. Frankly, it is very regrettable

Capt Camara

Guinean soldiers used tear gas, baton charges and fired live ammunition on Monday to break up demonstrations in the capital, Conakry.

About 50,0 00 people were protesting over rumours that Junta head Capt Moussa Dadis Camara intends to run for president in an election scheduled for next January.

The Guinean Organisation for Defence of Human Rights put the toll at 157 people killed and more than 1,200 wounded.

Guinea's interior ministry told the BBC that a total of 57 people died during the violence.

Bodies 'hidden'

Human rights groups say they have had reports of soldiers bayoneting people and women being stripped and raped in the streets during the protest.

CAPT MOUSSA DADIS CAMARA

Seized power in December 2008 as a little known army captain

Promised democracy, but now shows signs of holding onto power

Increasingly erratic behaviour and public humiliation of officials

"The military is going into districts, looting goods and raping women," Mamadi Kaba, the head of the Guinean branch of the African Encounter for the Defence of Human Rights (RADDHO), told AFP.

"We have similar reports from several sources, including police sources and some close to the military," said Mr Kaba, from his office in Dakar, Senegal.

The interior ministry source admitted that some soldiers had fired live rounds into the crowd, but said that only four people had died from gunshot wounds. The others, the ministry said, were trampled to death.

The opposition has accused the army of taking away some bodies to hide the scale of the violence.

Capt Camara denied knowledge of sexual assaults, but admitted that some of his security forces had lost control.

He said he was waiting to hear exactly how many people had died.

"Frankly, it saddens me immensely. Frankly, it is very regrettable," he told French radio.

Capt Camara said he had not yet decided whether to run for the presidency and was unsure what the correct move would be.

There has been worldwide condemnation of the violence.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon urged the Guinean authorities to exercise maximum restraint, while the West African regional body Ecowas is reported to be pursuing sanctions against the military reg ime.

The African Union has expressed grave concern over the latest violence, condemning the "indiscriminate firing on unarmed civilians".

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