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Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 8:08 am Subject: Re: Mino, Churro, and Karim, I share a Tchadian Journalist's perspective of Dadis and the CNDD
Harouna, Please see below for the translation of the script from French to English. I apologize up front for any mistakes in the translation. Some of the paragraphs are not in bold by mistake, I purposely did that trying to highlight ew things.] Churro.
Churro, I want to first commend and thank you f
or the extaordinary effort in translating the article into English. I have been yearning for this for a long time and voila, my prophet has obliged us. One reason why this patriotic act of yours is more valuable is that in areas of translations, perspectives flourish. The translation captured the essence of the article in that from a Tchadian's perspective, and having lived through similar privation and decrepitude in Ndjamena as was the case of La-Guinea under both Sekou Toure' and Lansana Conte', and as you yourself admitted that military or no military, Dadisand the CNDD represent the remnants of La-Guinea's salvage value. The article did not purport to predict milk and honey for La-Guinea, it merely affords context and urges accompaniment toward sobriety. A sobriety that can only be yielded by the people of La-Gunea first, then Dadis and the CNDD. I breathed a sigh of relief as I read a portion where Dadis CONFERRED with the CNDD partners, civil society, opposition political parties, and development partners on decisions for La-Guinea. Churro, perhaps you and I and Mino and Karim are saying the same things in that while we are pregnant with disdainful anxiety, we withhold judgement on Dadis and the CNDD so that our reservations may not bcome self-fulfilling prophecies. I will walk with you in your notes:
[You know, you are right it is not fair for anyone to be prejudged for perceived actions based on thoughts and perception. But if history teaches us anything, it will be making sure we are on the lookout for trends that led to unnecessary mistakes and failures of people in the past which can be avoided in the future.] Churro.
Fehr Dinkum Churro. I actually did not think we were pre-judging Dadis and the CNDD. We were merely sharing our anxieties and forebodings. More than pre-judging (because that is our privilege unless we sit in a court of law), I want us to take an active part in pr-empting deleterious pre-judgement.The value of history to the sober is the synthesis of the good, bad, ugly, and inspirational. History is a record of events. Itself does not attempt to describe the future nor does it serve only as cautionary tale for posterity. It is the people who harness history for value. The same people whose demarche will inevitably colour the future. You and I and La-Guineans, and Dadis, and the CNDD, and all affected parties. Think of it as reference for your future research. In other words, there are some things in history, when repeated exactly, can advance20your goals at both invention and improvement. It is in the synthesis of history that value is discerned. I think you agree with me on this. Like you I value the cautionary value of history. I want to believe that because the people are positive actors in any history or story, the same people can participate, if unawares, in colegial delinquency. We will risk being mlignant reviewers of history, borderline hysterical, if we focus so much on its cautionary value at the expense of its regenerative value. I urge you to maintain your suspicions. I also urge you to draw down on the anxieties as we historicalize the future and avoid the nightmares. Remmember a people write their own history.
[I wish I can look into the seeds of time and tell which one will grow and bear sweet fruits for Guinea and her people.] Churro.
Exactly Churro. And it is for this reason and the fact that where we also have interest in sweetness of such fruits, we knead nectarines.
[It is however a proven fact that what politicians say when they run for office and what they do when in office are20two different things. He is talking a good game but he is dropping clues of a dictator as well.] Churro.
I agee Churro. Dadis TALKS a good game like all politicians. He gives CLUES of dictatorship as is the natural gravitation of all politicians and humans..So we help him transform the TALK of good games into good actions or de-minimis, accompany him thereto. We cordon or caution him from the CLUES of infamy. That is what I encourage. I think you and I will make great partners.
[Dictatorship is in character and doesn’t matter if you are a Soldier or civilian.] Churro.
I agree 100% with you Churro.
[As a Soldier though you should exercise caution, maturity and a ........] Churro.
Like a civilian and citizen, you exercise due-diligence, sobriety, and wiser counsel.
[It reminds me of the speech President Jammeh gave when he came into power. I was there when his takeover was celebrated as a much needed change. Change which I warned even then is not necessarily in the best interest of our nation. We all remembered the transparency and accountability speech in July 1994. Yahya has no qualification to lead our people. This could be argued in many forms but the fact of the matter is a high school diploma and being a Lieutenant or a Captain is not enough of a resume for presidency.] Churro.
But Churro that maiden speech of Yahya and his qualifications or lack thereof were hardly indicators of criminal behavior. Yahya has committed crimes against the state and his fellow citizens. You did share that you don't purport to foretell the future in anything. And like you and most Gambians I could not foretell that that same Yahya would have become a criminal. Just as you cannot tell if I will be a criminal when I become Pesident of20the Republic of Gambia. (BTW I want and need your vote when I decide to contest that Presidency). WHat we are comforted with is the assurance that Dadis, you, and myself, hav superlative acumen and discipline to Yahya's infantry training. Oh before I forget Mino, you had once ventured to correct this assertion of mine and I inadvertently missed response to it. I did note however that Yahya calls Fort Benning Port Benning. And I frequent Fort Benning, Fort Oglethorpe, Camp Lejeune, Fort Bragg, and Fort Campbell. I have many an infantryman in clueless awe. I love you though Mino. Perhaps you orrected the assertion in Jest. Quoi ce soit
[What we have to do as people is to make sure that we weed out the ones who we feel signaled poor judgment, lack a sense of compromise and portrays selfishness. This can only be done during the campaign process and then elect the one that will work for our nations and its people.] Churro.
That is if you have the luxury of a legitimate campaign process Churro. And even then we must be careful not to weed in error. Just vote with your conscience and then help guide the benign President. Apprehend the criminal=2
0President. And encourage citizen sobriety and companionship.
[I eluded that CPT Camara is arrogant. Please see the extract from the articles.] Churro.
I suggested that arrogant is too strong a word for Dadis. Carburant. I will take note of the excerpt.
[In response, Capt Camara told AFP the "pompous attitude" of the opposition leaders proved they were not ready to govern the country.
"They are not really on top of things and no longer know which way to turn," he said.
"I have still not made up my mind so they should keep quiet, otherwise they are going to lose everything."
He said his opponents "don't understand anything about democracy".
"I have nothing more to say, except that I might or might not stand. No-one can stop me," he said.
Capt Camara's rule has been characterized by eccentric displays of power - such as forcing members of the elite presidential guard to beg for forgiveness on national TV after they roughed up a veteran officer.] Article author's rendition.
Churro, I just want to alert you that Eccentric displays of power was the author's characterization. It could be right or wrong. The statements of Dadis indicated his frustration with those who should know better attempting to deny their fellow citizens' constitutional and human rights. And considering what obtained in La-Guinea immediately prior and the sacrifices of the CNDD to intervene for adroit, I did not perceive Dadis as arrogant. I do think however that he made a poor choice of words and demonstrated malignant temperament. He is advised to use wiser counsel. There are many more displays of unbecoming speech and behaviour by Dadis. I encourage you to visit Jeune Afrique and read the diary of this AFP reporter when she sought audience with Dadis. I don't know this reporter but she could have appeared in thongs to interview Dadis. I'm just saying.
[“This group of young officers led by Captain Musa Camara Dadis suspended the Constitution, dismisses all the republican institutions and decided to revive Guinea towards true democracy based on respect for human dignity and freedoms”.
How do you suspend the constitution of a nation and then promise to lead its people in democracy based on respect for human dignity and freedom?] Churro.
Churro, Dadis and the CNDD are attempting to show us they CAN. I intend to accompany them and I know you will too. You will remmember that even though La-GUinea had a constituion all along, Sekou Toure' and Lansana Conte' ruled mainly by decree. That is after several engineered versions of that constitution to certify the decrees instead of the other way round. SO evidently,
maintaining that constitution would tantamount to maintaining the depraved status quo ate. Dadis and the CNDD have put together a constitutional review commission and a transitional committee particularly to shepard La-Guinea through the upcoming elections. The constitutions of these commissions brings me relief and hope. They too will have to be accompanied toward sobriety.
[Harouna, let me be the first to tell you I am by far not the smartest person on this list and I will always express my views only but I believe with conviction that CPT Camara is not the kind of leader Guinea need at this time and my judgment is based solely on what he is saying. If a man can’t articulate what he want to say well enough to negotiate, compromise and understand the people he wants to lead then give him power and see what he does.] Churro.
And this is based on your review of what Dadis SAYS. CHurro if I accept your contentions, then would you say there could be redemptive value in assisting Dadis toward sobriety. Or would you like to try another20Guinean already. ANd can you qualify the prospects of that when Dadis is presumed innocent until he commits a crime? And Churro the reason why I give you so much lattitude in your anxieties is because Dadis should be and is held to a higher standard. Because even if he commits a crime, with no structures yet in place, it will be difficult to determine him guilty or innocent of any crime. Have you ever considered that to replace Dadis with your better Guinean at this time of La-Guinea's life one must have other more convincing evidence than Dadis' odious speech. Afterall, President or no President, Dadis does have rights to expression and association.
[They will be lucky if he ask for their opinion.] Churro.
Churro, I encourage you to reconsdier. Dadis and the CND have already asked for the opinions of Guineans on all issues. Ask any GUinean, resident or diasporan.
[I guess we will have to see what he turn out to be if he is given the opportunity to be the president of Guinea.] Churro.
Churro, we don't have t wait and see. Dadis has displayed sobriety and maturity when he seized the Presidency at gun-point. I believe when he becomes President (advisedly after a first civilian term and after having resigned from the National military) he will be even more receptive of variance and guidance. I think I like you CHurro. Thank you for this opportunity. look forward to many more on a myriad topics. Haruna.
The Dadis Camara in Guinea
the new start
The Chadian Time Weekly in its issue 612 of 17 to 23 June 2009, page 7, is particularly interested in the socio political situation of our country since the advent of the ruling CNDD led by Captain Musa Camara Dadis.
The author of this article Maurice Soro also puts an emphasis on the priorities of the Man of December 23, his commitment to hold elections lib res and transparent with the key return to the normal constitutional order, the restoration of macroeconomic balances, and safety of people through a fair trial.
We deliver the full text
On the evening of Monday, December 22, 2008, Guinea was turning a new page in its history following the death of President Lansana Conté.
Public opinion, though attentive to the poor health of the Head of State was caught off guard by the rapid disappearance like the authorities on the matter of the estate of the late General. Questions and speculation surfacing.
Should we apply the Constitution stated that the President of the Assembly to ensure the transition, while Parliament was out of office for 2 years?
Who should manage th
e daily business with a government redesigned and confronted by Byzantine squabbles?
The great silent before this imbroglio has therefore decided to avoid any drift by doing, and this without transfusion blood to take over the destinies of the country.
Guineans woke up this Tuesday, December 23, 2008 with a new deal: the National Council for Democracy and Development (CNDD).
This group of young officers led by Captain Musa Camara Dadis suspended the Constitution, dismisses all the republican institutions and decided to revive Guinea towards true democracy based on respect for human dignity and freedoms.
Beyond the emergence of the army in political affairs - acknowledge that the international community for reasons of principle was doomed - the need to make a positive and pragmatic reading of the socio-political situation that prevailed.
As a secular arm of the Republic, it was necessary that the Armed Forces are actively involved to restore order in the city. However, within this institution, the grunts were particularly against the high hierarchy could no longer meet the aspirations of the party.
The first tremors from this malaise occur in 2007 with the highlight an unprecedented confrontation between the forces of defense and security.
Facing rivalry Captain Dadis Moussa Camara, Generals Sékouba Konate, Toto Mamadouba Camara, Mamadou Colonels Korka Diallo, Siba loholamou, Mathurin Bangoura, Commanders Moussa Keita, Keleti
Faro, Captains Claude Pivi, Moussa Camara and Tiébro of companions decide to take responsibility vis-à-vis the nation.
The population weakened by privation and economic situation of total insecurity, faced with an administration plagued by corruption and the appearance of mafia networks infiltrated by drug cartels following with great enthusiasm and hopes the emergence of new management team.
It was a unanimous all components of the nation that we are witnessing. Political leaders welcomed the historic act that puts the record straight. Why this sudden CNDD?
Guinea on the economic plan is a "scandal". Scandal geological, agricultural, water, fisheries, geographic populations, however, where private water and electricity have only access to health care and housing, everything dealing with relevant primary needs of man.
This ras-le-bol populations, said this Tuesday, December 23, 2008 through the patriotic Captain Dadis Moussa Camara and his companions.
The jubilation that swept the country in proclaiming the coming of the CNDD, is the manifestation of a yearning for change in an environment where a handful of individuals and officials were busy resources country living so lordly contempt while the majority of compatriots languishing in poverty, begging and confusion.
How to remain indifferent to this layer juvenile who sees no future looming on the horizon, suffering from unemployment, while the number of Directors is invested with older adults?
How to stand idl
y by when dirty money can buy everything and get away with anything in full view of everyone?
Faced with a volatile domestic situation and faithful to his oath to always serve the Republic, the army through the CNDD officers found the parade with elegance and intelligence.
This is all the more remarkable that no African country has its history, experienced arrived to 3rd power of the Army without any arrest or authorities, or gunshots and no casualties. That the term maturity of Guinean soldiers.
Deriving from people and service people, the Guinean Army could only invest and engage in this process of safeguarding national unity and consolidate the foundations of the Republic.
It is for these reasons that the international community should support and accompany the action of the CNDD's resolve to end practices impeding the emergence of a democratic country with Guinea Institutions under the will of the people for better management immense natural resources of the country.
It is incomprehensible that such an act of patriotism of Captain Dadis Moussa Camara and his companions CNDD be regarded as a deliberate action and individualistic. It is the preservation of the national interest of securing the future of Guinea, because, as stated by the Head of State: "the future of Guinea, is Peace, Reconciliation, the Freedom and Justice ".
This mission, the CNDD committed by the voice of his head through his discourse program January 14, 2009 to assume responsibi
lity before history.
Captain Musa Camara Dadis multiplying meetings with members of the nation of Guinea has launched "Operation Water and Electricity for All".
In conferring with the administration, the Head of State intends to use all the skills to develop a national policy and economic policy that calls Guinea on the path to growth economic and social progress.
The objective of Captain Dadis Moussa Camara is the use of mining revenues for the creation of housing and other infrastructure development. To do this, the President of the Republic challenged the various mining companies up so they operate effectively in improving conditions of people at the grassroots.
It will take a lot of patience, sacrifice and perseverance in the effort together in a patriotic national revival Reality is one that translates into action in favor of Guinea.
Elections free and transparent with the key to a return to normal constitutional order, good governance, the restoration of macroeconomic balances, compliance with international conventions, human security through a fair justice these are the objectives team led by Captain Musa Camara Dadis who deserve the full support of all development partners of Guinea.
Maurice Soro
Time
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I encourage you all to reflect. And Dadis has not committed a crime by engaging in banter with the opposition. It was not wise counsel for him to engage in such, but it was not criminal. I know it brings back flashes of military dictators but we've had worse civilian dictators in Africa. I will attempt to transummarize the pertinent paragraphs in good time.
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La Guinée sous Dadis Camara
le nouveau départ
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L’Hebdomadaire tchadien Le Temps dans son numéro 612 du 17 au 23 Juin 2009, page 7, s’intéresse particulièrement à la situation socio politique de notre pays depuis l’avènement du CNDD au pouvoir sous la conduite du Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara.
L’auteur de cet article Maurice Soro met également un accent particulier sur les priorités de l’Homme du 23 décembre, sa ferme volonté d’organiser des élections lib res et transparentes avec à la clé le retour à l’ordre constitutionnel normal, le rétablissement des équilibres macro économiques, et la sécurité des populations à travers une justice équitable.
Nous vous livrons le texte intégral
Dans la soirée du Lundi 22 Décembre 2008, la Guinée tourna
it une nouvelle page de son histoire suite au décès du Président Lansana Conté.
L’opinion publique quoique attentive à l’état de santé préoccupant du Chef de l’Etat a été prise au dépourvu par cette fulgurante disparition à l’instar des autorités sur la question de la succession du feu Général. Des interrogations et supputations font surface.
Fallait-il appliquer la Constitution qui indiquait le Président de l’Assemblée pour assurer la transition, alors que le Parlement était hors mandat depuis 2 ans ?
Qui devait gérer les affaires courantes avec un Gouvernement remanié et confronté à des querelles byzantines ?
La grande muette face à cet imbroglio a donc décidé de parer à toute dérive en procédant, et, cela sans=2 0effusion de sang, à prendre en main les destinées du pays.
Les Guinéens se réveillent ce Mardi 23 Décembre 2008 avec une nouvelle donne : le Conseil National pour la Démocratie et le Développement (CNDD).
Ce groupe de jeunes officiers dirigés par le Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara suspend la Constitution, démet toutes les Institutions Répub
licaines et décide de relancer la Guinée sur la voie d’une démocratie véritable basée sur le respect de la dignité humaine et des libertés.
Au-delà de l’émergence de l’Armée dans les affaires politiques - acte que la Communauté internationale pour des raisons de principe a condamné – il convient de procéder à une lecture positive et pragmatique de la situation sociopolitique qui prévalait.
En sa qualité de bras séculier de la République, il fallait que les Forces Armées s’impliquent activement pour ramener de l’ordre dans la Cité. Cependant, au sein de cette institution, la grogne existait notamment à l’encontre de la haute hiérarchie qui n’arrivait plus à répondre aux aspirations de la troupe.
Les premiers soubresauts découlant de ce malaise ont lieu courant 2007 avec pour point d’orgue un affrontement sans précédent entre les Forces de défense et de sécurité.
Face à ce20charivari, le Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara, les Généraux Sékouba Konaté, Mamadouba Toto Camara, les Colonels Mamadou Korka Diallo, Siba loholamou, Mathurin Bangoura, les Commandants Moussa Keita, Kèlèti Faro, les Capitaines Claude Pivi , Moussa Tiébro Camara et d’autres compagnons décident d’assumer leur responsabilité vis-à-vis de la Nation.
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La population affaiblie par les privations et une situation économique de totale précarité, confrontée à une administration minée par la corruption et l’apparition de réseaux mafieux infiltrés par les cartels de la drogue suit avec enthousiasme et beaucoup d’espoirs l’émergence de la nouvelle équipe dirigeante.
C’est à une adhésion unanime de toutes les composantes de la Nation que l’on assiste. Les leaders politiques saluent l’acte historique qui remet les pendules à l’heure. Pourquoi ce sursaut du CNDD ?
La Guinée sur le plan économique est un « scandale ». Scandale géologique, agricole, hydraulique, halieutique, géographique où cependant les populations privées d’eau et d’électricité ont à peine accès aux soins de santé et au logement, toute chose=2 0relevant des besoins primaires de l’homme.
Ce ras-le-bol des populations, s’est exprimé en ce Mardi 23 Décembre 2008 à travers l’acte patriotique du Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara et de ses compagnons.
La liesse populaire qui s’est emparée du pays à l’annonce de l’avènement du CNDD, constitue la manifestation d’une aspiration=2
0profonde et du changement dans un milieu où une poignée d’individus et agents s’étaient accaparés des ressources du pays vivant de manière seigneuriale tout en méprisant cette majorité de compatriotes croupissant dans l’indigence, la mendicité et le désarroi.
Comment rester indifférent à cette couche juvénile qui ne voit aucun avenir se profiler à l’horizon, en proie au chômage alors que les effectifs de l’administration sont investis par des gens du troisième âge ?
Comment rester les bras croisés quand l’argent sale permet de tout acquérir et de tout se permettre au vu et au su de tous ?
Face à une situation intérieure explosive et fidèle à son serment de toujours servir la République, l’armée à travers les officiers du CNDD trouve la parade avec élégance et intelligence.
Ceci est d’autant plus remarquable qu’aucun pays africain n’a de son histoire, connu l’arriv=C 3e au pouvoir de l’Armée sans qu’il n’y ait ni arrestation des autorités, ni coups de feu et ni pertes en vies humaines. C’est cela l’expression la maturité du Soldat guinéen.
Issu du Peuple et au service des populations, l’Armée guinéenne ne pouvait que s’investir et s’engager dans cette voie de sauvegarde de l’unit=C
3 nationale et de la consolidation des fondements de la République.
C’est pour ces raisons que la Communauté internationale devrait appuyer et accompagner l’action du CNDD dans sa volonté de mettre fin aux pratiques entravant l’émergence d’une Guinée démocratique dotée d’Institutions découlant de la volonté populaire pour une meilleure gestion des immenses ressources naturelles du pays.
Il serait incompréhensible qu’un tel acte de patriotisme du Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara et de ses compagnons du CNDD soit considéré comme une action délibérée et individualiste. Il s’agit de la préservation de l’intérêt national, de la sécurisation de l’avenir de la Guinée, car, comme le dit le Chef de l’Etat : « l’avenir de la Guinée, c’est la Paix, la Réconciliation, la Liberté et la Justice ».
Cette mission, le CNDD s’est engagé par la voix de son Chef à travers son discou rs programme du 14 Janvier 2009 de l’assumer en toute responsabilité devant l’histoire.
Le Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara qui multiplie des rencontres avec les composantes de la nation guinéenne a lancé l’opération « Eau et Electricité pour Tous ».
En conférant avec l’appareil administratif, le Chef de20l’Etat entend mettre à contribution toutes les compétences en vue de l’élaboration d’un programme national d’orientation politique et économique susceptible de remettre la Guinée sur la voie de l’essor économique et du progrès social.
L’objectif du Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara est l’utilisation des recettes minières pour la création de logements sociaux et autres infrastructures de Développement. Pour ce faire, le Président de la République a interpellé les différentes sociétés minières de la place afin qu’elles interviennent effectivement dans l’amélioration des conditions des populations à la base.
Il faudra beaucoup de patience, de sacrifices et de persévérance dans l’effort pour qu’ensemble dans un élan patriotique, le sursaut national soit une réali té qui se traduit en actes concrets en faveur des guinéens.
Des élections libres et transparentes avec à la clé un retour à l’ordre constitutionnel normal, la bonne gouvernance, le rétablissement des équilibres macro économiques, le respect des conventions internationales, la sécurité des populations à travers d’une justice équitable tell
es sont les objectifs de l’équipe dirigée par le Capitaine Moussa Dadis Camara qui méritent le soutien sans faille de tous les partenaires au développement de la Guinée.
Maurice Soro
Le Temps
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