Suntou,

Tell Jabou tribalists also have votes. They ain't selling it. They will give it to their tribesmen. The Touareg. or the Guarani Indians. Hail Mary!!! Asuncion!!! Haruna.


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From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:29 am
Subject: Re: Opportunity for self-assessment?

Obama entered politics not long ago with strong principles and integrity yet he uses modern means to pass his message(personalise emails sent to people with their names eventhough Obama may not have written those letters him self). He uses whatever is available out there to make the voters chose him. This doesn't mean some understand the message he is trying to pass, but they can at least associate with what plans he has in mind.
this voters are of mixed origins and background just like in our case. What is PDOIS doing wrong to warrant their mediocre performance? That is the question here. or may be people are tribalist? people most be so ignorant to understand the pro-black uplifting sermon (a self-defeating Pan-African nightmare)? are people just so unwise that Jawara's one liner kept influencing their political sub-consciousness (which Halifa disputes)? What is wrong?????
We can civic it all we like it wouldn't make a difference. People don't need spoon20feeding with political message. do it effectively and let people decide. PDOIS is lacking in that.
 Suntou


--- On Wed, 29/7/09, A Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: A Jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Opportunity for self-assessment?
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 8:14 PM

Malanding:

I know the question is directed at Rene, but let me jive in for a minute.

It is indeed a fact that PDOIS has been in the scene for over 20 years and it is equally factual that through this period PDOIS has struggled to become the majority party just as any other "mainstream" party has in previous elections. Perhaps this can be attributed to PDOIS principle and fervent belief in the person's political sovereignty. PDOIS has always advocated that they would rather help voters understand their sovereign right to make sound and desirable political choices than engage in politics  of inducement, hoodwinks, sewruba, sikko or asobee politics as we know it in Gambia - follow the herd mentality is not what PDOIS is in it for.

Now, I know you will then say it makes no sense for Sedia, Halifa, Sam and the rest to expe nd so much time and effort if it is not seemingly yielding any political dividend. This frustration is shared by many at various points in time however, principled conscience and dedication for the long-term benefit in a fulfilled sovereign being of a nation is not easily comprehensible by all and any. Some day we will get there but hopefully soon. The fact that Both Halifa and Sidia were able to harness enough votes to represent speaks volumes and is often overlooked in most of the critical assessments of PDOIS effort.

I trust that most of the criticism leveled at PDOIS political gains over the years is in itself a subtle expression of frustration by closet PDOIS supporters yearning for a joni joni.

As for the "educated elite," we have to be careful in labeling this group for or against PDOIS or any party for that matter. You will probably agree with me that they constitute the most illusive and incomprehensible group of voters in Gambia today in that they would tell you this and do that in a jiffy. I will refrain from revisiting the cliched comparison contrast of academic achievement and political conscience.

-Laye

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]" target=_blank rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Rene,
I would agree that PDOIS, has  for many years been very clear about their agenda, aims and objectives, and the principles that that guide the conduct of its members and activities.

That said, PDOIS has been in existence since 1986. After 23 years,  under two very different incumbents (Jawara and Jammeh),  fielding candidates in 5 Parliamentary and/or Presidential elections, PDOIS remains largely an out of the mainstream political party. Even among the educated elite, who had been reading the Foroyaa, the party newspaper, the party is painted with with Communist/socialist brush from the Jawara era.

I know very few who doubt the sincerity of Messrs Jatta, Sallah and Sarr or their commitment to spend all their being for a democratic Gambia. However, it is not hard to find those who would not vote for them. Those who would say Halifa / or Seedia are good descent people but I do not trust PDOIS. My problem is why this disparity? More importantly why is the party unable to grow its share of votes (under 5% the last time I checked) over the past 23 yrs? What is the PDOIS end game? Is it a PDOIS majority in government or an political educated Gambian electorate even if such a group chose some other party?


Malanding

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Aunty Jabou,
  &nb sp;          Just imagine; PDOIS supposedly has no strong following, but has managed  to be in the public consciousness and the political debate for more than two decades. And there are no signs that this enthusiasm and commitment will abate soon. One of the reasons why this has been the case, is the fact that first and foremost, PDOIS has a political argument to make; and secondly, it has been able to articulate that argument clearly and conceptually.                If we move away from personalities, and the individual who make most of the arguments on behalf  of PDOIS, Halifa Sallah, and look at PDOIS from the standpoint of its political, social, cultural and economic positions,  we will then begin to appreciate the huge contributions in our national political debate that the party has been able to make, in the  quest for a political alternative or solution from the first republic to the second republic.
              The first thing that everyone should note is that PDOIS has an agenda. It has its aims and objectives. It has principles that guide the conduct and affairs of its members and activities. It has an agenda based on programs that it would implement whenever it succeeds to take over the reigns of government. It has a programs based agenda.
             PDOIS's agenda, aims and objectives, and the principles that guide the conduct of its members an d activities, have been stipulated variously in their myriad of publications over the years. It is my hope that those who want to state  a different position will take issue with their agenda; or their aims and objectives and in so doing, give impetus to the evolution of a political thought process that can help to shape the discourse on politics. This will also make the awakening of our political consciousness more appreciable.             I cannot wait to learn more from the different postulations; different ideas and conceptions. This is the kind of political discourse I am yearning for.
             Rene  
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