Thanx for sharing Suntou. Mathew is always brilliant at the Echo.
Haruna.
 
In a message dated 4/15/2009 2:38:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Mathew's piece is interesting in this discourse.
welcome to the new age, a Gambia of many minds.

--- On Wed, 15/4/09, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?/Evian/Olfactor/SUntou/Laye/Jabou (JESOL et al)
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 6:50 PM

Bailo,

Welcome to the club.

Mboge

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:39 PM, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Modou,

Please subscribe me as another Halifa Talibe.

Bailo

--- On Wed, 15/4/09, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?/Evian/Olfactor/SUntou/Laye/Jabou (JESOL et al) Date: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 4:18 PM

Perhaps some of you are endowed with a certain level of discernment that ordinary 'fanatics' like me can never comprehend. To me their was marked maturity displayed by the opposition in dealing with the witch-hunt saga.  Folk welcomed the approach taken by parties like UDP through a very comprehensive press release. 

It is a known fact that Halifa consulted with community leaders both religious and political before setting out  to ascertain what people who claimed to have fallen victim to the witch-hunting told him.

But for the pathologically psychotic holding a visceral hatred of anything Halifa and PDOIS, whatever he dose is all done for political aggrandisement nothing else.  I say on to you hold on  to whatever your heart desires, and leave us too as you claim and demand all the time to decide on our terms as to what motivated Halifa. 

You cannot force your reality on us.  It is bloody disgusting to try to do so.  You better take note that you will be resisted at all times and within any space.

Halifa has said thousand times that no one should speak for anybody on things Gambian; though some can  amplify their voices and that is just what he is doing .  Where is the frigging insult of other leaders coming from? 

The dumb witches and congenial liars are glaring at us and we will not shirk in calling them out. And who the heck said that Halifa is a saint? Is it this not a manifestation of some form of perverse notion about somebody. 

Momodou Olly Mboge
Programmed PDOIS Fanatic and Talibe of Halifa Sallah




On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:05 PM, <[log in to unmask] href="http:[log in to unmask]" target=_blank rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Evian, it may come as a shock to you but I happen to concur with the Olfactor's sentiments below. Could it be that all of us are talking about the same things and we cannot bring ourselves to see it for partisan bantanbilly sakes? Well consider this:
 
The Olfactor: Everyone have the right to exercise their civic right to criticise folk doing their best, we also fucking reserve the right to point to the pathological psychosis of those trying to force us to swallow their distorted view of the truth and so-called informed and educated analogy.  Putrid nonesense i call it."
 
Suntou Translated: I reserve the friggin right to point to the pathological psychosis of those trying to force us to swallow their distorted view of the truth and so-called informed and educated analogy.
 
The Olfactor: Unless you are blinded and downright dumb and a congenial liar, everyone knows that PDOIS through Foroyaa have been keeping up the momentum on all political arrests and imprisonments of innocent folk. The witch hunt is just a continuity and was perhaps among the most lowly point of the sad trejectory Gambia is going through under the present governance system
Haruna: Halifa, by dint of his proprietorship of PDOIS' party Organ Foroyaa, and his leadership of PDOIS, AND as a respectable participant in the Pan-African Parliament, has added umph in prosecuting the legislative life of Gambia. Halifa takes advantage of the umphs to maximise PDOIS' electoral fortunes. (Nothing bad about that mind you Evian. What is friggin disgusting is to lie about it and insult our other leaders by comparing them to Halifa. Now who is the dumb witch and congenital liar? Evian I think you have a better perspective of my notes variously.)
 
The Olfactor: The witch hunt is just a continuity and was perhaps among the most lowly point of the sad trejectory Gambia is going through under the present governance system.
 
Haruna: Yahya was enabled to embark on the repulsive witch-hunting. Life is ever so dynamic (a continuum of events). Halifa is not amenable to coordinated effort with the other parties, opposition or APRC for commoner relief. Glaring. It appears that PDOIS is on a mission separate from common Gambian good.
 
Somebody (I can't remember who right now): I couldn't care less if Halifa engaged for political motives or not.......
Haruna: Whether Halifa had ulterior political motives or not is immaterial to me.
 
Evian, I want you to put the Njarr Lambai down for a minute and reflect on this whole conversation. I understand it will be hard to jettison the PDOIS cap so I am not even asking you to do that. Just review the entire body of the conversation with your PDOIS cap on. Then come back and share your impressions with us. I think its probably the unfortunate tone the conversation has taken that is why we miss important clues.
Haruna. Yours truly.
 
Modou Mboge wrote:

"Unless you are blinded and downright dumb and a congenial liar, everyone knows that PDOIS through Foroyaa have been keeping up the momentum on all political arrests and imprisonments of innocent folk. The witch hunt is just a continuity and was perhaps among the most lowly point of the sad trejectory Gambia is going through under the present governance system

Everyone have the right to exercise their civic right to criticise folk doing their best, we also fucking reserve the right to point to the pathological psychosis of those trying to force us to swallow their distorted view of the truth and so-called informed and educated analogy.  Putrid nonesense i call it."

I second your above thoughts! God save us from the envious, poisonous hearts that seek to transform goodness into badness. They shall be foiled and ultimately fail woefully. Amen!*

Bailo




Momodou Olly Mboge
Programmed Fanatic of PDOIS and Talibe of Halifa Sallah

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:05 AM, SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Laye, Halifa did not sacrifice for me. i would like to know when he did that. How many innocent folks are in prison right now, did i hear Halifa making noise about their plight? I would have thought, he will have make some statement about the others languishing behind bars. Halifa is a politician, unless you Laye see that, your analysis of his conduct will always fall short.
Politics is about being coning and manipulative. Halifa is no exception. "sacrificial lamb", what word is more political than that remark? PDOIS folks enjoy the civic talk, suntou is doing just that. Unless you wish me to fall in line, which is close to being impossible.
suntou 


--- On Tue, 14/4/09, [log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: [log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
To: [log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask]
Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 10:37 PM


Laye,
 
I am one of Suntou's and your peoples and it is not quite clear to me whether the one Gambian was sacrificing his freedom for us. Don't look at the illegal arrest yet because Halifa miscalculated on that score having underestimated Yahya's cluelessness. Halifa thought he did everything to avoid that eventuality and if he knew ahead of time that he were going to be arrested, he prolly would not have engaged. Read Halifa's notes prior to his expedition. Let me determine whether he sacrificed for me.
 
Allez. Haruna.
 
In a message dated 4/14/2009 2:34:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] rel=nofollow>[log in to unmask] writes:
Suntu:
You know very well where hell is breaking loose while you spend your
effort and time being cynical about the actions and judgement of the
one Gambian who stood up and sacrificed his freedom for yours and my
peoples' dignity. Hypocricy in abundance.

-Abdoulie
  Sent from my iPhone

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