Do people not use place-markers because no one has trained them in how to do them? That would be my first speculation based on my personal experience with formal JAWS training, Offhand, they sound extremely useful and they are certainly on my list of gee it would be good to look up more about. That is not at all a lack of interest, but the training / support/ evangelization angle is another aspect of competition in a very rapidly changing technical environment. Further speculation informed only by casual attention to software intellectual property issues: I would think place markers on webpages would be a very important competitive area just because of the proliferation of dynamically updated webpages. If one can make a location and go back there, one does not have to reread the whole page if only a small area is updated. I tend to agree that patent infringement suits in the software realm are sometimes just an effort to extort license fees. I have also lived a little too long in the land of Microsoft, land of buy low, sell high, to automatically be sympathetic to patent infringement claims. However, I also definitely want time to work with Window Eyes because it is supposed to be far superior to JAWS about switching between different languages. Best Dorene Cornwell Seattle WA In a message dated 7/25/2008 10:04:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Well, that case was settled. So lets move on to the present one. We don't really have the FS side of the argument. GW Micro claim that their implementation of place-markers in the latest Window-eyes beta etc. is different from - has nothing to do with - that (as set out in the suit) of FS in JAWS. Why did FS pick place-markers as a particular instance? Most JAWS users don't use them, anyway. Who else sues in the blindness AT field? Who will FS's next target be, in a year or two from now? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. Archived on the World Wide Web at http://listserv.icors.org/archives/vicug-l.html Signoff: [log in to unmask] Subscribe: [log in to unmask]