I don't usually post on here and I'm not quite sure what I'm doing, so sorry if my formatting is all weird. Ashley said: "I've lent out the only copy I have around but I'm 99% certain somewhere he recommends trimming the fat off meat. I *might* be making it up. Maybe it was The Paleo Diet I read it in. But I'm convinced it's in Neanderthin somewhere too... As soon as I get chance to check, I will do. Ashley" Ray does mention trimming meat in Neanderthin, BUT there is a caveat. The only place in the book where it mentions trimming fat is in the chapter "Before Getting Started on Neanderthin" and there is a footnote on page 79 of my paperback that says that the discussion of fats in that chapter is based on conversations with Dr. Cordain. So it's really Cordain recommending that fat be trimmed and not Ray himself. I wish Ray hadn't included that bit with Cordain's ideas in it because it seems to run so counter to the rest of the book and then gets misconstrued as being Ray's idea. -Elizabeth