In a message dated 11/17/2007 2:00:21 AM Central Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My dad was a test pilot > for the B-17s, B-22s and P-38s that came off the WWII production lines > at Offit Air Field near Omaha. Great story John ...a keeper ......My Dad flew B17" s but dosn't talk about them much ..he is 87 when asked once if he had ever been to Germany he dryly quips "a few times just to fly over " My Grandfather from new Orleans was an aviation reporter and witnessed Lingbergs flight as well as the crash of the Hidenburg over Lakehurst ;somehere we have black and whites of the Spirit of St. Louis and of the famous pratt and Whitney engine being worked on ...I understand the crate they shiped the plane back in from France is someones cabin in maine , and since were talking story my other grandfather was in the famed Liberty squadrian stationed in France and is credited with one kill , He once had to force land in no mans land after a horric battle before any of the dead were removed which owed to him also to never say much Lastly my older brother still carries the tradition at one time he owned two Steerman bi planes and now has a cessna 1951 "Bird dog " big glass cockpit observation plane ...me? I don't even like elevators and the only banking I do is hopefully on Fridays Py > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>