I think liberals have always resisited the idea of national ID cards - I'm liberal myself and have only come to agree with the idea in the past year or so. Kat Original Message: ----------------- From: ken barber [log in to unmask] Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:11:43 -0700 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Some say US citizens need a war tax or a call to national service. i think that it was both for terror and the immigration problem that this was passed. i think it is a little ironic that pre 9-11 it was conservatives that resisted the national id idea. now the roles are reversed. --- Kathy Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Sorry Mag but I'd trust Wikipedia before I trust > anything on > YouTube. I went to t he Library of Congress site > and looked up the > bill - it does mention RFIDs in driver's licenses, > but nowhere does > it say anything about implanting in our bodies. > > Frankly I'd far rather have a national ID card with > RFID technology > than illegal immigrants who cause crime in our > society get away with > illegal documents. Our country is too wide-open as > it is. Now > having said that, I also think that building that > border fence is > ludicrous and that money could have been far better > spent in beefing > up border security. > > Kat > > On Mar 30, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Tamar Raine wrote: > > > A video on youtube, with an author who has done > extensive reaserch, > > the video at the end goes too far in dramatizing > the possible > > problems. But the author's book is called spy > chips, and I will be > > buying it. it's no joke. it has very scary > implications. Even if > > the tag is only in your driver license, you can be > tracked! and > > ken, I never go to wikpedia as a source. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Tamar Mag Raine > > [log in to unmask] > > www.cafepress.com/Tamarmag > > Lots of new art & designs ~ come and look! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]> > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:16:42 PM > > Subject: Re: Some say US citizens need a war tax > or a call to > > national service. > > > > mag, i had heard nothing of this. where did you > hear > > about this? > > > > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> I just heard about how our lovely 109th Congress, > >> three years ago, passed public Law 109-13. It's > >> called the Real ID Act. > >> And it's so damn scary that I urge all Americans > to > >> read up on it! Starting in May 2008, we will need > to > >> submit to have RFID > >> implanted somewhere in our bodies! If we do not, > we > >> will not be able to board airplanes, trains, or > >> buses! We will not be able to enter Federal > >> buildings! We will be tracked from a distance. > >> Everytime we enter or exit a building, our > implanted > >> ID tags will be read. > >> > >> Yesterday at my doc's office, they fed all my > >> medical cards into a reader, and then asked for a > >> photo id! Which they then fed into the scanner as > >> well. I have been going there since 1984! and > they > >> need my photo ID? boy, if this does not rouse the > >> American public, I don't have much hope for us! > We > >> are being led down a path toward totalianism that > >> resembles the old Soviet Russia! All in the name > of > >> fighting terrorism! Only instead of kgb spies on > >> about half the population, it will be these chips > no > >> bigger than a pencil point. We must tell the new > >> 110th Congress to repeal the act! > >> > >> Mag > >> > >> > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Tamar Mag Raine > >> [log in to unmask] > >> www.cafepress.com/Tamarmag > >> Lots of new art & designs ~ come and look! > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Kathy Salkin <[log in to unmask]> > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:37:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: Some say US citizens need a war tax > or > >> a call to national service. > >> > >> > >> I'll have you know I laughed so hard at this, I > spit > >> out my drink! > >> Deri, you're ruddy dangerous! > >> > >> Kat > >> > >> > >> On Mar 29, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Deri James wrote: > >>> Mind you, when it does get a little boring you > >> can jazz it up a > >>> little by answering every question of the type > >> "How would you solve > >>> such and > >>> such a problem..." by saying "Imposition of > State > >> Control and > >>> assassinate all > >>> opposition"!!! > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Deri > >>> > >>> ----------------------- > >> > >> ----------------------- > >> > >> To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY > >> list, go here: > >> > >> > > > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > >> > >> ----------------------- > >> > >> To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY > >> list, go here: > >> > >> > > > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > ______________ > > Don't get soaked. 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