a very long disertation to camafloge and answer that is a 180 degree oposite what is really going on. --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > HI Mike, > > Its good red herring - you then have to defend why > you are a good American, which gets away from the > topic you are actually trying to get attention on. > It like the prosecutor asking "So when was the last > time you beat your wife?" You are instantly already > in the wrong. rarely can one have a discussion where > differences are the topic and someone not employ one > or the 13 fallacies of logic - which draw the > attention from the topic to the individual. It is > actually being a good American to question the > Status Quo, but its not being a good team player nor > does questioning authority ever go over well with > authority especially insecure authority. While we > have great a constitution and it tries hard to > protect from ourselves, it is can only work as long > as everyone is a thinking being, and not just a > blind follower. Jefferson mandated education because > he felt educated people made better decisions, where > more successful at business. The problem being that > thinking goes the way of the Dodo once emotionally > charged persuasive rhetoric and events co-inside to > create a "common evil" even if the evil is more our > imagination than reality. We need to fear ourselves > much more than any terrorist. They killed roughly > 3,000 and so far we have more than in war fatalities > and over 20,000 injuries. We have done a much better > number on ourselves than they could have ever hoped > to. Plus we have lost any standing in the world as a > leader - and any ground gained as a 1st world nation > - real problems are on the back burner or under the > rug - and we are rapidly spiraling into becoming a > 3rd world country. Yet here we are carefully divided > in groups so we have no power, Christians vs. Every > other Religion, Democratic vs. Republicans, Rich vs. > poor, able-bodied vs. disabled, white vs. everything > other ethnicity - United we Stand - Divided we fall. > We have fallen and only a miracle can reverse the > damage now. The enemy is never without - the enemy > is within. We have always been loosely united by > causes - usually external - but now we have no great > external cause to create unity. The War on make > believe Terrorism isn't it. I believe those folks > hate us - with cause and would love to do us damages > - if they could. But how? By preying on our > weaknesses. Its not hard now - everyone here hates > everyone else and feels used and cheated they don't > have everything they want - after all the > Constitution doesn't promise us a good life but does > establish the following. > > "We the People of the United States, in Order to > form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure > domestic Tranquility, provide for the common > defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the > Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, > do ordain and establish this Constitution for the > United States of America." > > And the Declaration of Independence states - "We > hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men > are created equal, that they are endowed by their > Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among > these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of > Happiness." > > Neither document insures that everyone will have > everything they want - only the chance to go for it. > Over the years we have radically changed from a > frontier nation to a "civilized" nation. People > today have nice lives and some folks live in > horrendous excess. We have a highly visible - highly > technical press that beats each other to the bad > stuff, and stuffs it down our throats 24/7. This > wasn't so in the past. If the press where as > motivated to seeking out good and things that better > our society we would be happier but they focus on > the Oh My God stuff - because at some level we all > give into that base instinct to stare at the > accident, gloat over someone else's misfortune, etc. > As individuals we all have an impact on not only > our lives but the lives around us and society. We > chose the groups we line up with and our attitudes. > To many people lined up with the wrong idea and its > now a run away train. I wish I had an answer to the > problems, I truly do. But it would take people > taking a truly hard look at themselves and accepting > responsibility and accountability at every level - > right to how we ourselves run our lives - I > certainly can't handle money, and I thought if I > just made enough it would work - no learning to > handle what I have would work. That sad fact about > my budget - no doubt what is and works not only at > my house and some of your houses but is also at the > county level, the city level the state level and the > country level. Its not the government - its the > individuals and the flaws and the forging together > of these on ever higher group levels that we need to > solve. > > We are like alcoholics always having the bottle to > blame and never seeing its our choice to drink. Some > of this is instinctive - The I didn't do it - > reflex. WE need to get over this. This is the > ruination of us - not the myriad of things we lay > the blame on. What is the problem - not who is at > fault - what is the problem, and how can we fix it. > We so busy whining, complaining and finger pointing > we never get around to solving the problem and we > attack those who do - back to "being a questioned as > a Good American". Its the endless putting out little > fires and never seeking the source - so you will put > out fires till doomsday until you address the > source. > > Trisha > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cerebral Palsy List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf > Of Mike Collis > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:39 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: I have a question > > > Why is it that one's patriotism is called into > question when one questions > or disagrees with the status quo now? > > ----------------------- > > To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY > list, go here: > > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > > ----------------------- > > To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY > list, go here: > > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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