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Vera,

I don't know how you bible quotations supported your stand that Jesus was not with his disciples. As your quotation clearly indicated if he was not there with them, Peter would have drowned like your evangelist friend.

"Ye men of little faith".

Faith is spiritual and inner belief not what we profess.

Have a good weekend and continue praying for humanity.

Joe



From: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Evangelist drowns trying to walk on water
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:27:33 -0500
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Sam, I think I'd better pray for you anyway!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Jimba <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, September 1, 2006 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Evangelist drowns trying to walk on water
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> Vera,
> I was only trying to do my own miracle. Can you guess what it is?
> Walking on the internet!!!
> Sam
> > Sam, if you really believe what you posted, please let me know so
> > that I can pray for you.
> > That pastor was attempting to show others, his congregation, the
> > full extent of his faith in God. How many of you first of all,
> > actually have any faith, and secondly, have faith that others can
> > see and use to help bolster their own faith? We don't know if the
> > prophetic is operating in that church; we don't know how much or
> > how clearly they hear the voice of God. Furthermore, when you are
> > operating in faith, the enemy talks to you loudly and clearly to
> > dissuade you from what you're doing or to prevent you from taking
> > the proper course of action. The enemy always talks more and
> > louder than God does to try to keep people from hearing Him.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sam Jimba <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 pm
> > Subject: Re: Evangelist drowns trying to walk on water
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> > > Dear Vera,
> > > Drowning could also be a way of walking "inside" water!!! Which
> > is
> > > greater, to walk "on" or "in" water??? A person who walks "in"
> > > water does more work because he is at once suspended in water
> > and
> > > at the same time bears the immense weight of the water above
> > > him!!! If you agree with me, don't respond.
> > > Sam
> > >
> > > > Alright. Open your bibles to Matthew 14:22, then John 14:12-
> 14
> > > > Matt 14:22-33
> > > > 2 Immediately Jesus made His disciples get into the boat and
> > go
> > > > before Him to the other side, while He sent the multitudes
> > away.
> > > > 23 And when He had sent the multitudes away, He went up on
> the
> > > > mountain by Himself to pray. Now when evening came, He was
> > alone
> > > > there. 24 But the boat was now in the middle of the sea,
> > tossed
> > > by
> > > > the waves, for the wind was contrary. 25 Now in the fourth
> > watch
> > > > of the night Jesus went to them, walking on the sea. 26 And
> > when
> > > > the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled,
> > > > saying, "It is a ghost!" And they cried out for fear. 27 But
> > > > immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, "Be of good cheer!
> It
> > > is
> > > > I; do not be afraid." 28 And Peter answered Him and said,
> > "Lord,
> > > > if it is You, command me to come to You on the water." 29 So
> > He
> > > > said, "Come." And when Peter had come down out of the boat,
> he
> > > > walked on the water to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw that
> > the
> > > > wind was boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink he
> > > cried
> > > > out, saying, "Lord, save me!"
> > > > 31 And immediately Jesus stretched out His hand and caught
> > him,
> > > > and said to him, "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?"
> > 32
> > > > And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased. 33 Then
> > those
> > > > who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, "Truly
> > You
> > > > are the Son of God." NKJV
> > > > As I said, Jesus was walking out to the boat that was in the
> > > > middle of the Sea of Galilee.
> > > > John 14:12-14
> > > > 12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the
> > > works
> > > > that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he
> > will
> > > > do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My
> > > name,
> > > > that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
> > 14
> > > If
> > > > you ask anything in My name, I will do it. NKJV
> > > > It is not unreasonable to expect to do this miracle; however,
> > if
> > > > it was done as a test, the Bible specifically instructs
> > against
> > > > putting God Almighty to the test. There is only one place God
> > > > says to "prove Him in this," and this is in Malachi 3 where
> > He's
> > > > talking about giving tithes. Jesus expects us to do
> everything
> > > He
> > > > did and greater. We know nothing of this man's faith or
> > beliefs.
> > > > He may, like many of you and too many preachers in too many
> > > > pulpits, give lip service to the word of God and believe the
> > > parts
> > > > he likes and dismisses the parts he doesn't.
> > > >
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