Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (rly-yj06.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.144]) by air-yj01.mail.aol.com (v110.15) with ESMTP id MAILINYJ14-82444d94ae240; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:39:48 -0400 Received: from cglistserv.cgcent.miami.edu (listserv.miami.edu [129.171.32.99]) by rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (v110.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYJ66-82444d94ae240; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:39:31 -0400 Received: from cglistserv (cglistserv.cgcent.miami.edu) by cglistserv.cgcent.miami.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:39:27 -0400 Received: by LISTSERV.MIAMI.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.5) with spool id 1489872 for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:39:26 -0400 Received: from bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com by cglistserv.cgcent.miami.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:39:26 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.26]) by bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:39:25 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:39:25 -0700 Received: from 67.101.64.132 by BAY121-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:39:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.101.64.132] X-Originating-Email: [[log in to unmask]] X-Sender: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C6BB33.69E43ED0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2006 02:39:25.0140 (UTC) FILETIME=[070EC940:01C6BB5D] Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:41:32 -0400 Reply-To: New Discourse <[log in to unmask]> Sender: New Discourse <[log in to unmask]> From: Thom Shepard <[log in to unmask]> Subject: A Nice Summer Day in New Orleans Comments: To: Urbangeneration Miami U <[log in to unmask]>, Congress for New Urbanism UKY Listserv <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Precedence: list List-Help: <http://listserv.miami.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=NEWDISCOURSE>, <mailto:[log in to unmask] NEWDISCOURSE> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Owner: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Archive: <http://listserv.miami.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=NEWDISCOURSE> X-AOL-IP: 129.171.32.99 ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C6BB33.69E43ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting who you meet riding an electric scooter around New Orleans and w= hat you see, especially when you exceed the range of the scooter, start to w= alk, and inevitably talk. Some folks were moving a triple stack of scaffolding around the corner of a=20= house onto the sidewalk. They needed a forth hand so I hoped off my scooter= and jumped in. Turns out the contractor was Robert Tannen who has designed= and built the MODGUN. His criticism of the Katrina cottage I have to agre= e is warranted as none of the designs included in the book actually have a b= lue print for the "grow house". It is talked about but not actually design= ed. If I am going to place a Katrina cottage on a lot as part of a bigger h= ouse, it would help, since I have never done this before to have a plan for=20= the whole house so I know how to orient the first piece of this "grow house"= . I look forward to seeing these designs in future books so I can not only=20= tell Robert about the grow house and that it is in the book but show him the= actual blue prints. His designs are worth looking at: http://www.ogdenmuseum.org/about/building_solutions.html And by the way Robert said that the MODGUN sold this past weekend during the= White Linen Gallery opening in the Museum District which I have to say was=20= a really great event that I personally enjoyed. I still have heard no word=20= from anyone from the listserv's of a Katrina cottage that is being lived in=20= now that I can go photograph on my trip from New Orleans back thru Mississip= pi this week. I have a few leads on developers that I will contact but no s= pecific houses yet. I look forward to photographing the MODGUN in action so= on. Also today I got to sit in on the presentation prep of Jim Amdal, Director o= f the University of New Orleans, College of Urban and Public Affairs, Transp= ortation Center. This presentation will be Wednesday, August 9, 2006 from 7= p to 9p at the Holy Rosary Cafeteria, 3368 Esplanade Ave for those of you in= New Orleans. It is generally for City Park/Parkview but it should be very=20= interesting and has a focus on Districts 5 and 6 which the University is wor= king with on planning efforts and should be a good intro/history of all of t= he New Orleans myriad of planning efforts and who they are/can come together= for a common plan with different areas of focus. Anyone who wants a great=20= overview of what has and will be happening I would highly recommend this pre= sentation. It also gives a great description of the 5th districts neighborh= ood/citizen planning structure which is quite fascinating. It seems that th= e total lack of leadership at the City and State level during the early phas= es has lead to a rather positive outcome: The citizens are taking charge of= planning and in district 5 as well as in other districts they are becoming=20= quite educated and extremely sophisticated with their delegation and focus o= f sub committees. District 5 is definitely one to watch. New Orleans Neighborhoods Rebuilding Plan: History of Planning in New Orlean= s http://www.nolanrp.com/index.php Look under "your neighborhood" to find specific information on distinct neig= hborhoods around New Orleans. Mid City seems to be doing well also and is gaining some attention, they sur= round Canal when you leave the CBD/French Quarter and include some beautiful= historic high ground neighborhoods surrounding the St John Bayou which as J= im mentioned was successful early in New Orleans history because you could s= ail a boat right up the Bayou from Lake Ponchatrain. Many historic homes re= main along Canal and it's historic streetcar's although as you approach Inte= rstate 10 it becomes more commercial as they bulldozed a lot of the mansions= in this area to build modernist office buildings during a previous era. Th= ere is a great little bar in this area trying to do live music Thurs/Fri/Sat= called Chickie Wah Wah. Music starts about 10 or 11 which is quite appropr= iate in this area as the building is constructed so you can't hear the band=20= outside and it faces canal in an area that is much more commercial to the ma= in street and streetcars. Many of the bars in New Orleans outside of Bourbo= n street tend to have to deal with the noise issue with nearby residents. T= his area would make a great stip of great quality late night music venues th= at are so convienent to the CBD, hotel district but have a little space from= some of the very touristy venues. Oh interesting note on Canal Street, the= y are tearing up a lot of the street to put down new sidewalks and fancy mar= ble tiles and as well planting "I heard" $40,000 palm trees. I tried to go=20= by city hall and ask the councilperson for my prospective district if all th= e fancy hotels were paying for this or the city or state but those I asked s= aid that I was way too early at 7:50 and they wouldn't be there until 9 or 1= 0 am. I asked if there was a big function last night or this morning and th= ey said no, that was pretty typical. I have not made it back down to ask ag= ain, but...seems they could have cleaned up some of the storm debris from so= me of the harder hit neighborhoods before stating on this and the 60+ billio= n widening of Interstate 10 towards Metare for what people I am not sure. I= guess they are tying to encourage sprawl commuting to the city instead of r= ebuilding historic areas in way's that are properly protected from the flood= s like the raised garden courtyard and raised boulevard with garages to the=20= low side and houses handicap accessible to the pedestrian/streetcar boulevar= d that are being discussed around New Orleans as an alternative to houses on= stilts that are elderly and handicap unfriendly. Can you say ramps from he= ll everywhere. www.mcno.org If you come to visit you must know that substantial parts of the city are st= ill a total disaster area, neither torn down nor rebuilt. Actually the Lowe= r 9th ward is in the best shape of the hardest hit communities as this is wh= ere most people seem to want to go to help even though this might be the las= t place to really be rebuilt. Ironically as the volunteers gut houses in pl= aces very few are living, houses remain without roofs and burned out houses,= homes with doors off the hinges, debris piled on the street in areas that m= any people are fixing other houses and living. It is a bit of a strange sys= tem where volunteers might be gutting the homes of absentee landlords while=20= the residents trying to come back to areas better suited for rebuilding and=20= homes already raised to appropriate or close levels sit in total disrepair. But you should also know that a lot of the moderate to high ground parts of=20= new Orleans are open for business, from Guest Houses, to music clubs, shops,= etc. But especially this time of year a lot of them are really hurting for= business, the triple whammy of the Hurricane, the slower time of hot summer= , and the general perception among many that a lot of New Orleans is not ope= n yet for business. A lot of people with no help from the city have scrappe= d together their place and opened clean and professional and then whacked wi= th huge tax bills while the city seems to only care about promoting the Fren= ch Quarter and tourist districts. A lot of these places could really use yo= ur business and in a lot of ways some places are better than before the hurr= icane as there is little to know traffic unless you head to the suburbs. www.mcno.org Thom Shepard [log in to unmask] Community Advocate/Citizen Planner/Rural Urbanist NPU-X, Mid City, New Orleans member: www.cacno.org Contemporary Arts Center member: www.ogdenmuseum.org/ Ogden Museum of Southern Art, University of New Orleans fan: Katrina Krewe www.CleanNO.org fan: Mid City Neighborhood Organization, mcno.org www.mcno.org/newsletter/mcno-summer-06.pdf founding member: (I don't think we have a website yet) Atlanta Chapter, Congress for New Urbanism For more on the New Urbanism see: www.cnu.org www.newurbanguild.com Need real estate services in Mid City, call Walter King 504-245-0061 email:=20= [log in to unmask] 3100 Canal Street, New Orleans, Louisiana 700119 This is also the future address and temporary headquarters of NPU-X To get daily updates or pics from Mid City email: [log in to unmask] w/subject header SUBSCRIBE I recommend the www.StCharlesGuestHouse.com The New Discourse List is a temporary forum for the discussion of progressiv= e and new ideas in support of traditional architecture and urbanism. Please=20= direct enquiries to the listowner, Dr Richard John ([log in to unmask]). -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C6BB33.69E43ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Interesting who you meet riding an electric= scooter=20 around New Orleans and what you see, especially when you exceed the range of= the=20 scooter, start to walk, and inevitably talk.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some folks were moving a triple stack of=20 scaffolding around the corner of a house onto the sidewalk. They neede= d a=20 forth hand so I hoped off my scooter and jumped in. Turns out the=20 contractor was Robert Tannen who has designed and built the MODGUN. &nb= sp;=20 His criticism of the Katrina cottage I have to agree is warranted as none of= the=20 designs included in the book actually have a blue print for the "grow=20 house". It is talked about but not actually designed. If I= am=20 going to place a Katrina cottage on a lot as part of a bigger house, it woul= d=20 help, since I have never done this before to have a plan for the whole=20 house so I know how to orient the first piece of this "grow house". I=20= look=20 forward to seeing these designs in future books so I can not only tell Rober= t=20 about the grow house and that it is in the book but show him the actual blue= =20 prints. His designs are worth looking at:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A href=3D"http://www.ogdenmuseum.org/abo= ut/building_solutions.html">http://www.ogdenmuseum.org/about/building_soluti= ons.html</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And by the way Robert said that the MODGUN=20= sold=20 this past weekend during the White Linen Gallery opening in the Museum Distr= ict=20 which I have to say was a really great event that I personally=20 enjoyed. I still have heard no word from anyone from the listserv= 's=20 of a Katrina cottage that is being lived in now that I can go photograph on=20= my=20 trip from New Orleans back thru Mississippi this week. I have a few le= ads=20 on developers that I will contact but no specific houses yet. I look=20 forward to photographing the MODGUN in action soon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also today I got to sit in on the presentat= ion prep=20 of Jim Amdal, Director of the University of New Orleans, College of Urb= an=20 and Public Affairs, Transportation Center. This presentation will be=20 Wednesday, August 9, 2006 from 7p to 9p at the Holy Rosary Cafeteria, 3368=20 Esplanade Ave for those of you in New Orleans. It is generally for Cit= y=20 Park/Parkview but it should be very interesting and has a focus on Districts= 5=20 and 6 which the University is working with on planning efforts and should be= a=20 good intro/history of all of the New Orleans myriad of planning efforts and=20= who=20 they are/can come together for a common plan with different areas of=20 focus. Anyone who wants a great overview of what has and will be happe= ning=20 I would highly recommend this presentation. It also gives a great=20 description of the 5th districts neighborhood/citizen planning structure whi= ch=20 is quite fascinating. It seems that the total lack of leadership at th= e=20 City and State level during the early phases has lead to a rather positive=20 outcome: The citizens are taking charge of planning and in district 5=20= as=20 well as in other districts they are becoming quite educated and extremely=20 sophisticated with their delegation and focus of sub committees. Distr= ict=20 5 is definitely one to watch.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New Orleans Neighborhoods Rebuilding Plan:=20= History=20 of Planning in New Orleans</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A href=3D"http://www.nolanrp.com/index.p= hp">http://www.nolanrp.com/index.php</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look under "your neighborhood" to find spec= ific=20 information on distinct neighborhoods around New Orleans.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mid City seems to be doing well also and is= gaining=20 some attention, they surround Canal when you leave the CBD/French Quarter an= d=20 include some beautiful historic high ground neighborhoods surrounding t= he=20 St John Bayou which as Jim mentioned was successful early in New Orleans his= tory=20 because you could sail a boat right up the Bayou from Lake Ponchatrain. = ;=20 Many historic homes remain along Canal and it's historic streetcar's althoug= h as=20 you approach Interstate 10 it becomes more commercial as they bulldozed a lo= t of=20 the mansions in this area to build modernist office buildings during a previ= ous=20 era. There is a great little bar in this area trying to do live music=20 Thurs/Fri/Sat called Chickie Wah Wah. Music starts about 10 or 11 whic= h is=20 quite appropriate in this area as the building is constructed so you can't h= ear=20 the band outside and it faces canal in an area that is much more commercial=20= to=20 the main street and streetcars. Many of the bars in New Orleans outsid= e of=20 Bourbon street tend to have to deal with the noise issue with nearby=20 residents. This area would make a great stip of great quality late nig= ht=20 music venues that are so convienent to the CBD, hotel district but have a li= ttle=20 space from some of the very touristy venues. Oh interesting note on Ca= nal=20 Street, they are tearing up a lot of the street to put down new sidewalks an= d=20 fancy marble tiles and as well planting "I heard" $40,000 palm trees. =20= I=20 tried to go by city hall and ask the councilperson for my prospective distri= ct=20 if all the fancy hotels were paying for this or the city or state but those=20= I=20 asked said that I was way too early at 7:50 and they wouldn't be there until= 9=20 or 10 am. I asked if there was a big function last night or this morni= ng=20 and they said no, that was pretty typical. I have not made it back dow= n to=20 ask again, but...seems they could have cleaned up some of the storm debris f= rom=20 some of the harder hit neighborhoods before stating on this and the 60+ bill= ion=20 widening of Interstate 10 towards Metare for what people I am not sure. = ; I=20 guess they are tying to encourage sprawl commuting to the city instead of=20 rebuilding historic areas in way's that are properly protected from the floo= ds=20 like the raised garden courtyard and raised boulevard with garages to the lo= w=20 side and houses handicap accessible to the pedestrian/streetcar boulevard th= at=20 are being discussed around New Orleans as an alternative to houses on stilts= =20 that are elderly and handicap unfriendly. Can you say ramps from hell=20 everywhere.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A href=3D"http://www.mcno.org">www.mcno.= org</A></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you come to visit you must know that sub= stantial=20 parts of the city are still a total disaster area, neither torn down nor=20 rebuilt. Actually the Lower 9th ward is in the best shape of the harde= st=20 hit communities as this is where most people seem to want to go to help even= =20 though this might be the last place to really be rebuilt. Ironically a= s=20 the volunteers gut houses in places very few are living, houses remain witho= ut=20 roofs and burned out houses, homes with doors off the hinges, debris piled o= n=20 the street in areas that many people are fixing other houses and living.&nbs= p;=20 It is a bit of a strange system where volunteers might be gutting the homes=20= of=20 absentee landlords while the residents trying to come back to areas better=20 suited for rebuilding and homes already raised to appropriate or close level= s=20 sit in total disrepair.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But you should also know that a lot of the=20= moderate=20 to high ground parts of new Orleans are open for business, from Guest Houses= , to=20 music clubs, shops, etc. But especially this time of year a lot of the= m=20 are really hurting for business, the triple whammy of the Hurricane, the slo= wer=20 time of hot summer, and the general perception among many that a lot of New=20 Orleans is not open yet for business. A lot of people with no help fro= m=20 the city have scrapped together their place and opened clean and professiona= l=20 and then whacked with huge tax bills while the city seems to only care about= =20 promoting the French Quarter and tourist districts. A lot of these pla= ces=20 could really use your business and in a lot of ways some places are better t= han=20 before the hurricane as there is little to know traffic unless you head to t= he=20 suburbs.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A href=3D"http://www.mcno.org">www.mcno.= org</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thom Shepard<BR><A href=3D"mailto:thomshe= [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR>Community=20 Advocate/Citizen Planner/Rural Urbanist<BR>NPU-X, Mid City, New=20 Orleans</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>member: <A href=3D"http://www.cacno.org">= www.cacno.org</A><BR>Contemporary Arts=20 Center<BR>member: <A href=3D"http://www.ogdenmuseum.org/">www.ogdenmuseum.= org/</A><BR>Ogden Museum of=20 Southern Art, University of New Orleans</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fan: Katrina Krewe <A href=3D"http://www.= CleanNO.org">www.CleanNO.org</A><BR>fan: Mid City Neighborhood=20 Organization, mcno.org<BR><A href=3D"http://www.mcno.org/newsletter/mcno-s= ummer-06.pdf">www.mcno.org/newsletter/mcno-summer-06.pdf</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>founding member: (I don't think we have a w= ebsite=20 yet)<BR>Atlanta Chapter, Congress for New Urbanism</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For more on the New Urbanism see:<BR><A h= ref=3D"http://www.cnu.org">www.cnu.org</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.newurb= anguild.com">www.newurbanguild.com</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Need real estate services in Mid City, call= Walter=20 King 504-245-0061 email: <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">walt= [log in to unmask]</A><BR>3100=20 Canal Street, New Orleans, Louisiana 700119<BR>This is also the future addre= ss=20 and temporary headquarters of NPU-X</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To get daily updates or pics from Mid=20 City<BR>email: <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">StoriesFromMi= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 w/subject header SUBSCRIBE</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recommend the <A href=3D"http://www.StC= harlesGuestHouse.com">www.StCharlesGuestHouse.com</A></FONT></DIV></BODY></H= TML> The New Discourse List is a temporary forum for the discussion of progressiv= e and new ideas in support of traditional architecture and urbanism. Please=20= direct enquiries to the listowner, Dr Richard John ([log in to unmask]). -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C6BB33.69E43ED0--