Here is an interesting question or something to think about. I sometimes thin our lives are going to be what ever God has in mind from the beginning and no matter how we try to change it it will not work. I know this from experience and here is a verse from the Bible in Jeremiah 4-5 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: 5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you: Before you were born I sanctified you: ordained you a prophet to the nations. My life has seem to be ordain to be a non achiever, go no where. Because no matter what I have done in my life to better it. I have always ended up right where I started from. -- I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is IN GOD WE TRUST Karen Carter '74 -KC- Ministries -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: MV <[log in to unmask]> > I think we were predestined to have freewill. *smile*. > > Brad > > > > At 06:07 PM 1/23/2006 -0700, you wrote: > >I read or heard this story. I'm not sure if it was on e-church or not, but > >here goes: > > > >A church congregation split over the subject of free will and > >predestination. One of the members was confused. He tried to join the > >Predestiationers. They asked him, "How did you come to join this group?" > > > >"By my own free will." > > > >"Then you can't be a member here. We believe in predestination only!" > > > >He then tried to join the Free Willers. > > > >"How did you come to join us?" they asked. > > > >"By predestination," he answered. > > > >You can guess the rest. > > > >sharon > > Brad > > Strive to be insulated, not insulated