Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Steve, there is no particular reason why a flat screen Tv should be more or less accessible than any other idiot box. so far I havn't seen a remote with a touch screen on it, that would be a mess. As for kiosks with touch screens, if you call the group and want to actually suggest solutions , you should know that quite a bit of prototype accessibility work with such systems has been done by Greg Vanderheiden and his group at trace rehab center at the univ of wisconsin http://www.trace.wisc.edu but yes, most installed kiosks and such are not accessible. my local grocery store, Albertsons, has installed a trial checkout system with no clerks. It talks but not enough, and requires reading the display to get through the process. I wouldn't use it anyhow because I hate all this use of technology to put people out of work. tom Fowle Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html