Agreed. If you don't have a Yahoogroup account you can't view messages on the web and it might take longer to re-subscribe to a list. But, if you can't access the Yahoo account pages this is a quicky subscribe option that works well until you can straighten out the access problems. It is interesting that sighted and blind alike have problems with the YahooGroups pages. Some are problems like Anjalea describes and some are simple problems of confusion because there is so much stuff on the pages. To sign up for an account, I've suggested that folks set aside time to read and familiarize themselves with the pages first. But the simple page not loading and error messages received seem common among all attempted users. Yahoo and Hotmail, Google and other services are expanding, changing and upgrading, and strange quirky things happen during these processes too! posting from Emma's Family Farm Windsor Maine; Steve Hoad VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html